Red Bull RB8 Renault

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The more I read the more I am convinced it has to do with managing what aerodynamicists call inner flow. It has to do with keeping the car more stable.
I believe in part thru pressurising the inside and cockpit and where they manage the exhaust of such inner air could also be used to feed that air where they want. Possibly to help manage that air/exhaust flow, towards the rear wing/diffuser, serving double duty. It's not a bullet so you must let some air through.
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gerishnikov wrote:Brian if you really think that any team, let alone the defending champions are using a 2011 chassis then you have clearly gone full retard, and you never go full retard.
I had to laugh at this one. I like Brian, but I LOVE the total disregard for political correctness.
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gerishnikov wrote:Brian if you really think that any team, let alone the defending champions are using a 2011 chassis then you have clearly gone full retard, and you never go full retard.
2011 chassis design of coarse, not reused parts.

Look at the RB8, except for the hole in the front bulkhead, why do you need a new chassis? The chassis is from the nose mounting area (front bulkhead) to the front of the engine, correct?

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From today's Quali. Quite telling you can see the leftover flo-vis from the exhaust area. Red Bull seem to be struggling with finding the right solution/getting theirs to work properly.

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I think they are better off with their winter testing solution. They are compromising side pod aero for this blown floor. when it works it's a positive compromise when it doesn't then it fails them.
Sauber are similar, very inconsistent qualifying runs. Fares better in the race, but overall this solution is an unreliable dependency.
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ringo wrote:I think they are better off with their winter testing solution.
You mean the more traditional Red Bull shrinkwrap job? the A-spec, if you will?

Here's the thread on that, would love to get your thoughts on it: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12249
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hardingfv32 wrote:
gerishnikov wrote:Brian if you really think that any team, let alone the defending champions are using a 2011 chassis then you have clearly gone full retard, and you never go full retard.
2011 chassis design of coarse, not reused parts.

Look at the RB8, except for the hole in the front bulkhead, why do you need a new chassis? The chassis is from the nose mounting area (front bulkhead) to the front of the engine, correct?

Brian
The reason for the stepped nose was due to teams wanting to reduce costs and use tubs from last year. If not, then why was the compromise agreed?
If a new tub was to be used, the teams could just as easily used a lower bulkhead, as per McLaren

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gilgen wrote:
hardingfv32 wrote:
gerishnikov wrote:Brian if you really think that any team, let alone the defending champions are using a 2011 chassis then you have clearly gone full retard, and you never go full retard.
2011 chassis design of coarse, not reused parts.

Look at the RB8, except for the hole in the front bulkhead, why do you need a new chassis? The chassis is from the nose mounting area (front bulkhead) to the front of the engine, correct?

Brian
The reason for the stepped nose was due to teams wanting to reduce costs and use tubs from last year. If not, then why was the compromise agreed?
If a new tub was to be used, the teams could just as easily used a lower bulkhead, as per McLaren
Stepped nose was in an attempt to keep the chasis raised in the front to allow as much air as possible to the splitter area. Any cost cutting talk is just likely team bs

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Sorry, but that is fact. Your opinion that it is just BS, is not a nice comment.

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gilgen wrote:Sorry, but that is fact. Your opinion that it is just BS, is not a nice comment.
Facts need proof. Wheres the proof thats a RB-7 chasis?

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This team has wasted too many resources/time in trying to hold on to their favorite toy from last year, at least for the time being.

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Rikhart wrote:This team has wasted too many resources/time in trying to hold on to their favorite toy from last year, at least for the time being.
Well, the concept is working pretty well on the McLaren, and Adrian is stubborn almost to a fault. I bet Red Bull will get it to work eventually. May have to wait until the Mugello test and Barcelona race though.

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scarlet wrote:
Rikhart wrote:This team has wasted too many resources/time in trying to hold on to their favorite toy from last year, at least for the time being.
Well, the concept is working pretty well on the McLaren, and Adrian is stubborn almost to a fault. I bet Red Bull will get it to work eventually. May have to wait until the Mugello test and Barcelona race though.
That's assuming McLarens performance is majorly due to their exhaust design and not anything else.

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This exhaust obviously gives the most performance.

But obviously is the hardest to get working.
This is the reason it´s still on the car.
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Can´t you sue someone for copyright from something written online?
Mark Hughes points out in Autosport this week, a way of "using the upper-body airflow to seal the exhaust flow into going to the right place, where it in turn seals the underbody airflow into going to the right place."
I´m pretty sure I read the exact same thing a while back on this very thread... Nice journalism there, stealing phrases from forums.