[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Fantastic result. Seems like a really solid allround car.

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SmallSoldier wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 16:54
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11 Jul 2020, 16:36
In any case we must do one last good Q3 and try to extend our point difference from Ferrari, Racing Point and Renault.
P3 for Sainz. Too bad Norris only P6 which means P9 tomorrow. Should be fun to watch.
Great result for the team... Carlos’ first P3 on qualifying in his career... The team with very good chances of having a good race and result on Sunday with the RP’s and the Ferrari’s behind in the grid.

Norris P9 is not a bad result considering that the expectation on dry weather was for him to start probably outside of the top 10 for the race and the car should have enough pace to bring the fight to Ocon and Gasly at least


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Great result indeed, and just like I said yesterday, Checo isn’t great in the wet, with Stroll being even stronger. I’m sure Lando will not only be kicking himself over the penalty, he’ll also be a bit disappointed with his qualifying. Hopefully it’ll put the fire in his belly for tomorrow, which thankfully won’t involve Q2 tyres.
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I forgot about Lando’s pain problem. So if it’s still an issue, in proper perspective, he’ll probably be very happy with his performance. Great job all round by the team.
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The biggest problem for tomorrow is the first corner and first few laps. Sainz might start better than Verstappen and there is a big chance of entanglement between these two, especially as Verstappen does not understand someone can be faster at particular moment than him.

And if everything goes trough without any problems, then Sainz will lose few positions in first few laps (Bottas, Albon). Hopefully after that he gets his pace good enough to retain 5th. Ferrari and RP will be pushing hard trough the field, so it is cruicial he gets as much space ahead as possible.

And hopefully engine and everything else dont malfunction. Norris will have to perform his magic, maybe he manages to climb himself to 6th.
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proteus wrote:The biggest problem for tomorrow is the first corner and first few laps. Sainz might start better than Verstappen and there is a big chance of entanglement between these two, especially as Verstappen does not understand someone can be faster at particular moment than him.

And if everything goes trough without any problems, then Sainz will lose few positions in first few laps (Bottas, Albon). Hopefully after that he gets his pace good enough to retain 5th. Ferrari and RP will be pushing hard trough the field, so it is cruicial he gets as much space ahead as possible.

And hopefully engine and everything else dont malfunction. Norris will have to perform his magic, maybe he manages to climb himself to 6th.
The race will be interesting even before it starts... Strategy will play a big role since some teams may go for an aggressive strategy and start on the Softs to try and get through the field early in the race (we also need to consider that with the track probably very green and with cooler track temps, the Softs may have a bigger advantage over the mediums)... On the other hand, Mediums to go for a long stint and cover for potential Safety Cars in the first half of the race is also a big possibility.

Strategy will play a key role on Sunday, hoping that Mclaren gets it right!


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The good thing is that it's a very good car in general so far in a second time in a row.

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Sainz Q3 fastest lap
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SmallSoldier wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 17:35
proteus wrote:The biggest problem for tomorrow is the first corner and first few laps. Sainz might start better than Verstappen and there is a big chance of entanglement between these two, especially as Verstappen does not understand someone can be faster at particular moment than him.

And if everything goes trough without any problems, then Sainz will lose few positions in first few laps (Bottas, Albon). Hopefully after that he gets his pace good enough to retain 5th. Ferrari and RP will be pushing hard trough the field, so it is cruicial he gets as much space ahead as possible.

And hopefully engine and everything else dont malfunction. Norris will have to perform his magic, maybe he manages to climb himself to 6th.
The race will be interesting even before it starts... Strategy will play a big role since some teams may go for an aggressive strategy and start on the Softs to try and get through the field early in the race (we also need to consider that with the track probably very green and with cooler track temps, the Softs may have a bigger advantage over the mediums)... On the other hand, Mediums to go for a long stint and cover for potential Safety Cars in the first half of the race is also a big possibility.

Strategy will play a key role on Sunday, hoping that Mclaren gets it right!


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I agree completely, strategy and clean start are key tomorrow for both cars
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FittingMechanics wrote:
11 Jul 2020, 16:32
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11 Jul 2020, 16:30
Rain seems to have lowered the difference between Mclaren and the first two teams. Once again our competitors Racing Point and Ferrari flopped. A good opportunity to gain more points and extend the difference.
Could be an indicator that Renault is still down on power, in these heavy conditions the power is less important. Both Renault and McLaren seem to be doing really well.
Ferrari (and the team have Ferrari motor )it would be better on the same logic.
I think rain more effected fast corners performance.
Engine map related traction more important like that heavy conditions

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Well done Carlos. So you can get used to p3. I hope for good points in the race.

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It’s another really well executed qualifying from the team. Considering Racing Point have very similar speed, you can see how well executing a good lap can influence your result.

Given RP and Ferrari are behind it’s a good opportunity for handy points but ultimately that means executing a clean race and clean opening corner- which with Max around and some feisty Renaults might be difficult.

Safety cars as we saw last week can significantly alter the race and you could see the likes of a Racing Point on fresh rubber making late gains.

Either way, an excellent Saturday.

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Great result for the team, the car handles very well in those conditions! That's a reflection on what James Key brings to the team in terms of the chassis' mechanical grip and balance. Was a hallmark of his at Toro Rosso, who also ran well in the wet.

Same as last weekend, clean start for Carlos and bring the car home in P5 or higher if the front guys have issues. Lando will have a tough race with the Renaults and Ferraris around him, but should have the pace to see a potential 6th place.

Great to see the RPs way out of the running. Contentious topic, but in the spirit of a prototype constructor championship, long may their misfortune continue.

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Xero wrote:Great result for the team, the car handles very well in those conditions! That's a reflection on what James Key brings to the team in terms of the chassis' mechanical grip and balance. Was a hallmark of his at Toro Rosso, who also ran well in the wet.

Same as last weekend, clean start for Carlos and bring the car home in P5 or higher if the front guys have issues. Lando will have a tough race with the Renaults and Ferraris around him, but should have the pace to see a potential 6th place.

Great to see the RPs way out of the running. Contentious topic, but in the spirit of a prototype constructor championship, long may their misfortune continue.
RP qualifying positions couldn’t be better for Mclaren, with such a short season ahead of us, a good collection of points in the initial races could be fundamental towards a good championship positions.

It will be interesting to see if Carlos tries to maintain Bottas/Albon behind in the first few laps (at the expense of potential tire wear) or if he will simply avoid those fights and push towards a P5 (and a great amount of points).

Lando on the other hand will have a very tough race starting from P9... With both Renaults and a Toro Rosso in front of him, the risk / reward decisions he will have to make specially at the beginning of the race will be key.

I have a feeling that Mclaren will go for the conservative strategy and start on Softs with a tire saving pace to then change to Hards... Last week I was surprised that they didn’t chose Softs for their last stint in the race and went for Mediums instead... On the other hand, would love for them to try something different and go for a first stint on Hards and a final stint on Softs for Norris... He could hang with the Renaults and AT’s on the first stint, avoid coming back into traffic during the first pitstop window and potentially run in free air for the second half of his first stint, coming back on Softs for the last 20-25 laps and for it!


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Carlos needs a good start to get some space between him and the chasing midfield, but he would be crazy to fight RB & Merc after that, it’s not his battle. Unless reliability comes into play 5th is going to be the limit

I don’t think for 1 minute Max would try anything aggressive Or clumsy on him, he knows he needs to finish this race and he has a chance of winning, albeit slim. He will have his head on the long game, he showed that last year already

Lando needs to watch out for Seb who unlike Max, will go in hard. He has upped his starts towards the end of last year now his building confidence, so he may be able to challenge Ric & Gasley at the start and get P7. Them he needs to settle in and bide his time to pass Ocon. I think because of the he will start on the soft or he will be a sitting duck

Strategy will be interesting, the race seems to favour 2 stops. Those on a 1 stop struggled to make them last, last week, even with 2 SC periods. Last year Max won with a 2 stop too, but with cooler temps & new tyres to start the race perhaps 1 stop might be doable

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Two stops may be easier, but they are slower. If there is no SC it wouldn't work at all. Perez managed to do one stopper on mediums without severily dropping away so I'm sure that hards would have done fine to the end (like Mercedes did)