2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[ScuderiaLeo]

Hamilton said he and Adami found something. It was not the floor explicitly. Not sure why his whole post race comment was not posted and only Charle's.
It may be an adjustment that he has never used before. It does not sound like it is a part to be upgraded.
So let's see next week.

Bahrain will be hot and may suit the car. If Lewis does well, let's see if the trolls come out again.

I think people just need to be patient. It's only race 3 and the 2nd dry race. And it's Suzuka.

Mercedes are probably more dissapointed than Ferrari at this point.

He did explicitly mention the floor. In another interview he stated - this is a direct quote - "On our side of the garage we have a bit of a problem with our floor. That's been there for the first three races."

However I still find it very unlikely there was a parts issue that Ferrari didn't see for three entire weekends.

Therefore my assumption is that he's referring to a setup adjustment that they didn't realize was harming their pace, but he thinks the new floor coming in Bahrain will help with how he wants to drive.

This lines up with what Leclerc said about a new floor unlocking better pace. The odd thing here then is Vasseur saying there's no "upgrades" coming, but this would make more sense if he's viewing the floor as a corrective measure and not a direct performance upgrade.

[ringo]

It's either the floor or setup. But he's soundling like it's on his side of the garage. It may well be both cars.
At the end of the video it sounds like it's a part to come indeed.

[venkyhere]

Mercedes are probably more dissapointed than Ferrari at this point.

Yeah, right.
They are 'more' disappointed that both their drivers and constructor points are ahead of Ferrari after three races. Tifosi cannot take criticism about their team, unless it comes from within themselves. The solution to a mess starts from accepting that there is a 'mess' in the first place. Ferrari have somewhere gone wrong with their aero-suspension-chassis marriage. It's a subtle problem, and hard to root cause. Why is it so hard to accept ?

And FWIW, my earlier post about Hamilton's radio with his engineer was not an 'unga-bunga-caveman' take or a 'troll' post. It's something worth noting. Hamilton was similarly asking the same Q (where am I losing time?) in China as well, when he could actually 'see' in front of him, how leClerc was driving better, despite a broken front wing. Someone of his experience and expertise, should have already been feeling where his car is suffering - he's already aware of the strength and weaknesses from all the 'data study' sessions they have as part of engineering meetings.
Plus I don't know how many of you observed, Hamilton is not driving the same 'efficient lines' like LeClerc (which he used to, in his glory era).
I don't know why you guys take so much offence just because someone posted something you don't like to hear.

[ringo]

You are over analyzing.
All drivers ask where they are losing time in the corners.
They get a lap delta and they can push more in some corners or take it easy in others to save tyres or fuel.
He asked where he is losing to Kimi to see where he can push more on a less durable tyre without killing them.
The mercedes was a superior car today.

This expectation of what a 7x champion should be doing doesnt hold much water. There's no user manual or employee handbook on that because he's the only guy in F1 on 7 wdc and 100+ wins. The guy's just doing his job for his new team.
So far he's the strongest new guy in any team.
No mistakes so far, got a win, lead a race, and keeping close to LeClerc who's one of the most talented in F1. Not bad so far.

[Luscion]

Mercedes are probably more dissapointed than Ferrari at this point.

Yeah, right.
They are 'more' disappointed that both their drivers and constructor points are ahead of Ferrari after three races. Tifosi cannot take criticism about their team, unless it comes from within themselves. The solution to a mess starts from accepting that there is a 'mess' in the first place. Ferrari have somewhere gone wrong with their aero-suspension-chassis marriage. It's a subtle problem, and hard to root cause. Why is it so hard to accept ?

And FWIW, my earlier post about Hamilton's radio with his engineer was not an 'unga-bunga-caveman' take or a 'troll' post. It's something worth noting. Hamilton was similarly asking the same Q (where am I losing time?) in China as well, when he could actually 'see' in front of him, how leClerc was driving better, despite a broken front wing. Someone of his experience and expertise, should have already been feeling where his car is suffering - he's already aware of the strength and weaknesses from all the 'data study' sessions they have as part of engineering meetings.
Plus I don't know how many of you observed, Hamilton is not driving the same 'efficient lines' like LeClerc (which he used to, in his glory era).
I don't know why you guys take so much offence just because someone posted something you don't like to hear.

I'll just leave these here, Hamilton had all of 3 testing days to get used to a completely new car and how it works compared to what he was used to for over 12yrs and especially how the Merc cars worked in these sets of regs

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-ham ... ina-sprint

Ham after his sprint win

“The first race was difficult,” Hamilton said, “and I really do feel a lot of people underestimated the steep climb it is to get into a new team, to become acclimatised within the team, understanding, communication, all sorts of things.

“The amount of critics and people I’ve heard yapping along the way just clearly not understanding maybe because they’ve never had the experience, or just unaware.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-ham ... ari-attack
Gunther was wrong, it only took three weekends

Gunther

He will have got what you call it, a period of time,” the Italian told GPBlog. “There’s a word for it where nobody will attack him. It’s not going to be two years, it’s going to be six months. Then the pressure will start to come and the criticism. Everything he does will be second-guessed and questioned. But you’ve got a period of time where you can make it work, and you just need to focus on that to make it work

Sainz is also still struggling to adapt the the Williams car
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... aXQjNwsvUw

Speaking on Thursday at Suzuka, Sainz reflected: “I think it has been quite a challenge, for sure, like always when you change teams. “You always go through a learning process and an adaptation process that takes time and effort and takes a lot of energy, but I feel like we’re on the right track, going the right way.

You need to give yourself time when you change teams – when you have so many things that you are used to and things are so different,” he explained.

You need to give yourself time to experience those things and to go through different tracks, different experiences and learn from them.

That is exactly what I am going through right now and I am going to give myself the time in the next few races to get up to speed. But I think overall, we are on the right track.”

[Seanspeed]

Drivers love excuses. Sometimes they're legit, but sometimes, they're ultimately just excuses.

So far I'd say Lewis looks a whole like the Lewis we saw last year at Mercedes, a team he was obviously massively comfortable in. He's had his strong moments, but maybe isn't quite on top of his game as often as he used to be.

[SoulPancake13]

I find the driver talk to really be secondary to the main issue, which is the pace of the car - specifically the low fuel pace. The stint on hards was within 2 tenths of the leaders until something went very wrong.

[CHT]

Drivers love excuses. Sometimes they're legit, but sometimes, they're ultimately just excuses.

So far I'd say Lewis looks a whole like the Lewis we saw last year at Mercedes, a team he was obviously massively comfortable in. He's had his strong moments, but maybe isn't quite on top of his game as often as he used to be.

I read in one of Adrian Newey interview where he mentioned drivers' feedback is very important, but there are times where drivers may get it wrong and request for the wrong set up change. This is where engineers will have to make the call, but I reckon working with 7WDC may be more challenging as engineers may have to oblige to LH request.

Perhaps as LH get older, he starts to lose some sensory ability to feel the limit of the car, which explain why he is struggling with consistency in qualifying (Even between sprint and qualifying) or why he is asking his engineers about where is he is slower at Suzuka.

[ringo]

His qualifying has improved from last year.
Last year was just shocking half the time. Either not making Q3 or having the car for 2nd or 3rd row and not being higher than 8th.
I think he isnt willing to go balls out if the car doesn't have the performance. SF25 is slower but it seems a more predictable platform than his last 3 cars.
I think he more or less has to use the setups recommended by the team loosely based on his feedback. He wouldnt know enough about the car to really own it.
Maybe it's best he uses Charles setups in two weekends then see if the pace works out.

As for the car, "the part" sounds like one thing. I woule be suprised if it was not the floor and something else like a heave spring/damper.

[deadhead]

It's either the floor or setup. But he's soundling like it's on his side of the garage. It may well be both cars.
At the end of the video it sounds like it's a part to come indeed.

So HAM won the sprint race with a compromised floor? Impressive to say the least!

[Hammerfist]

His qualifying has improved from last year.
Last year was just shocking half the time. Either not making Q3 or having the car for 2nd or 3rd row and not being higher than 8th.
I think he isnt willing to go balls out if the car doesn't have the performance. SF25 is slower but it seems a more predictable platform than his last 3 cars.
I think he more or less has to use the setups recommended by the team loosely based on his feedback. He wouldnt know enough about the car to really own it.
Maybe it's best he uses Charles setups in two weekends then see if the pace works out.

As for the car, "the part" sounds like one thing. I woule be suprised if it was not the floor and something else like a heave spring/damper.

one thing I've noticed with Lewis this weekend is the way he refuses to take curbs. This cost him a lot at the chicane and he was one of the worst there the whole weekend and he never altered it. Not sure what's going on but in general he does not try to cut the corner as much as he can. I guess the engineers are not allowed to point that out to him or something as it's so obvious it is kind of painful to watch.

[ringo]

Interesting. They can point it out to him. There is no rule against the pitwall giving hints.
I think Charles' engineer pointed out him adjusting his diff? And he said he heard but there is a reason he didnt.
So in Lewis case, maybe fear of plank wear if he rides the curbs.
Lewis seems like a driver that doesn't get excited to push if he knows he can't win or podium.

The next race should be smoother in think. They should be able to run lower.

[Vanja #66]

So it took Hamilton 3 races to turn teamlh from Ferrari worshipers to Ferrari haters

Brilliant

[DJ Downforce]

So it took Hamilton 3 races to turn teamlh from Ferrari worshipers to Ferrari haters

Brilliant

Uhhhh I'm not seeing that anywhere? Just analysing what he said and where he is losing time.

Let's not turn this into a fan war

[DJ Downforce]

His qualifying has improved from last year.
Last year was just shocking half the time. Either not making Q3 or having the car for 2nd or 3rd row and not being higher than 8th.
I think he isnt willing to go balls out if the car doesn't have the performance. SF25 is slower but it seems a more predictable platform than his last 3 cars.
I think he more or less has to use the setups recommended by the team loosely based on his feedback. He wouldnt know enough about the car to really own it.
Maybe it's best he uses Charles setups in two weekends then see if the pace works out.

As for the car, "the part" sounds like one thing. I woule be suprised if it was not the floor and something else like a heave spring/damper.

one thing I've noticed with Lewis this weekend is the way he refuses to take curbs. This cost him a lot at the chicane and he was one of the worst there the whole weekend and he never altered it. Not sure what's going on but in general he does not try to cut the corner as much as he can. I guess the engineers are not allowed to point that out to him or something as it's so obvious it is kind of painful to watch.

I think it's just a lack of confidence. Maybe also after the super stiff mercs the last few years he's more afraid of doing it.

All things which he will hopefully iron out.

Let's see what the Bahrain weekend brings - few days til Friday!