Mercedes AMG F1 W03

[Predator]

So far, definitely a new FW and looks like the FW pylons are more outboard/sit further apart. Exhaust also looks slightly revised.

Edit: it must have been a different front-end that I saw, as it was only a quick glance and I haven't seen anything similar on the Merc again, so apologies. I could've sworn I saw Rosberg with it but oh well...

[Raptor22]

Sauber is already bringing very visible exhaust updates to China, and they already had the most advanced layout. Mercedes with a bad one, doesn't seen to be working on it. Afterall, they also have tire wear issues to steal their attention.

You could just as well concur that Sauber has it wrong because they continue to adjust their exhaust system. Mercedes is faster so their exhaust must be better. You really have no clue to the exhaust system performance.

Brian

Do you have anything other than bashing and breaking down a discussion? If not, find something else to do with your time please.

[myurr]

He makes a point though. Artur's post was speculation and hyperbole.

Mercedes has tyre wear issues to get on top of, and when they do they'll be a front running team. Sauber have qualifying issues to get on top of, and when they do they could be a front running team (although I believe they'll have to sacrifice their current trump card, tyre wear, to improve significantly in qualifying).

And is the Sauber exhaust really the most advanced layout on the grid!? I'd argue that McLaren's solution was better in that it achieves the same effect with less bodywork and a much better coke bottle shape.

[TimmTurbo]

Well Brian is actually right.


In fact we are all just guessing which exhaust System is more effective, no one of us has any figures. So saying that the W03 solution is worse than the one from C31 is just plain speculation.

All we know for sure is that the W03 quali pace is better than C31. Due to the early retirement of Michael in Oz and the crazy weather conditions in Malaysia nobody knows the real racepace of Michael & W03 up to now.

[Raptor22]

He makes a point though. Artur's post was speculation and hyperbole.

Mercedes has tyre wear issues to get on top of, and when they do they'll be a front running team. Sauber have qualifying issues to get on top of, and when they do they could be a front running team (although I believe they'll have to sacrifice their current trump card, tyre wear, to improve significantly in qualifying).

And is the Sauber exhaust really the most advanced layout on the grid!? I'd argue that McLaren's solution was better in that it achieves the same effect with less bodywork and a much better coke bottle shape.

Everything we talk about starts out as speculation. Until its either confirmed by the team or by someone with a CFD program. It's the way Brian goes about his involvement that's more than tiresome (or should I say tyresome to keep it on topic...?)
If we were to talk about facts only there would be no discussion:

I'm off to watch prac 2. Will report some observations later

[myurr]

Everything we talk about starts out as speculation.

I have no problem with that, but simply stating that Sauber's exhaust is the most advanced is not very helpful. Why is it the most advanced? What real world effect is demonstrating that fact? What are we seeing in the lap times that supports this?

By stating it as fact and without backing it up it's not speculation it's hyperbole.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Mercedes W03 is still suffering high tyre degradation, according to BBC pitlane reporter Jenny Dowd.

Saying that, I'm still hopeful of a strong weekend showing for Mercedes. Their 3rd sector times are impressive.

[raymondu999]

It should be considering they have the duct. I'd suspect they'd be quick in S1 too. The pit straight is of decent length, and the run from the exit of 3 all the way through to the hairpin of 6 is also quite a quick straight.

[Mestrades]

Where I can get the time/lap of today? Someone can tell us how are the race sim?

[raymondu999]

The session is still on - so you can still hop onto F1.com and open up their live timing.

[WhiteBlue]

Mercedes W03 is still suffering high tyre degradation, according to BBC pitlane reporter Jenny Dowd.

Saying that, I'm still hopeful of a strong weekend showing for Mercedes. Their 3rd sector times are impressive.

The Merc seems still to be eating his tyres. It is uncomfortably cold here and Merc may be one more time unprepared for the tyre window.

[VarioR]

The car looks exactly the same to me.

Does anyone notice any difference or new parts?





Just look at the tyres...




Probably one more race to forget..

[FrukostScones]

[aduka11]

Its quite cold in China, why would they need this?

[Blackout]

New diffuser with split gurney (top) + new vertical gurney like fins on the rear wheels + new horizontal wheel fins