McLaren MP4-27 Mercedes (pre-launch speculation)

[allstaruk08]

does that mean that the last 100mm has to be exposed in that regulated box or can the bodywork be moulded around it aslong as the last 100mm of the exhaust is in the regulated box. im making a model of my image of a 2012 car and was going to shape the body work after the exhaust exits in a letter box shape so the exhaust gases are spread out and aimed in a certain direction, instead of just being fired out of the round exit.

[beelsebob]

Pretty sure the exhausts can have body work around them... they just can't have body work in the cone into which they blow.

[allstaruk08]

then i have a feeling we're going to see some funky looking bodywork next year they could even possibly blow the diffusers again

[Tozza Mazza]

then i have a feeling we're going to see some funky looking bodywork next year they could even possibly blow the diffusers again

Not gonna happen.

Exhaust has to be in a 'box' so to speak, which is where the top of the sidepod is, and the exhaust flow cannot come into any contact with any bodywork but suspension and brake ducts, in a 3 degree divergence from the exhaust cone, up to the rear wheel centre line. The exhaust also has to be at a certain angle horizontally and vertically.

Nothing is getting blown next year, but the underside of the rear wing.

[allstaruk08]

i cant find anywhere that says the exhaust gases cant come in contact with bodywork =S maybe my other idea might happen then, feed the brake ducts from underneath by diverting the cold air in and obviously mesh it so nothing else gets in and then the teams will have more room on the front edge and top for aero vanes

[ringo]

2012 Rules (Acording to the Scrabs is hard to find official 2012regs)

For 2012 rules tightly dictate the position of the last 10cm section of the exhaust pipe.

- exhaust must only transfer fluids from the engines exhaust ports to the tail pipe exit. i.e. no other gasses can enter or exit the exhaust along any point in its length.

- tailpipe section is tightly defined, the last 100mm must be a round thinwall circular section = 75mm internal diameter with no obstructions

Then this last 100mm of pipe must be entirely within a specific "box" area on the car.
-boxed space has to 500mm from the rear axle line and 250mm above the reference plane. This area is however very generous with a length of 700mm and height of 350mm. Thus the top of the exhaust could be as high as 600m above the reference plane, around the same height as the top of the rear tyres.
- box must be more than 200mm and less than 500mm from the cars centre line. So exhausts could not exit tightly placed along the cars centreline.
Within each of the boxes the exhaust must be positioned within a range of angles. From the side the exhaust must exit tailpipe-up and between 10 to 30 degrees from the reference plane.
- tailpipe must be plus or minus 10 degrees from the cars centreline.

No as is, i mean the exact wording.
That's the only way to take advantage of regulations. The wording has to be taken at face value. These are second hand interpretations that lack specifics; even though they are worded for the casual fan.
I was hoping the actual regs for 2012 could be obtained.

[munudeges]

Exhaust has to be in a 'box' so to speak, which is where the top of the sidepod is, and the exhaust flow cannot come into any contact with any bodywork but suspension and brake ducts, in a 3 degree divergence from the exhaust cone, up to the rear wheel centre line. The exhaust also has to be at a certain angle horizontally and vertically.

Unless this is merely being governed by the direction of the exhaust this is utterly impossible to police.

[aleks_ader]

2012 Rules (Acording to the Scrabs is hard to find official 2012regs)
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No as is, i mean the exact wording.
That's the only way to take advantage of regulations. The wording has to be taken at face value. These are second hand interpretations that lack specifics; even though they are worded for the casual fan.
I was hoping the actual regs for 2012 could be obtained.

I know that you (me also) want more specific regs, but i can t find Officially regs from FIA side... That i also wrote at the top of my post, but betzer this than nothing I will countinue searching...

And so you say is damm true:

The wording has to be taken at face value.

[raymondu999]

McLaren have announced the car will be unveiled on Wednesday February 1

[ell66]

Hopefully they can take another step this year, they definatley closed the gap to redbull in terms of perfomance, but it still wasnt enough, make a car just as fast and hamilton will do all the rest.

[astracrazy]

McLaren have announced the car will be unveiled on Wednesday February 1

cool can't wait

[NonNewtonic]

Ahhhhh still so long to go before the next season start!!! Can't wait how those 'traditional' top teams find their way to challenge those bulls!

[yener]

Ahhhhh still so long to go before the next season start!!! Can't wait how those 'traditional' top teams find their way to challenge those bulls!

Mark my words! RBR will not be the team to beat in 2012. McLaren will be. They know exactly what they have to do and they are working on it.

[wesley123]

and what makes you think Red Bull themselves dont? Having beat both Ferrari and McLaren with ease

[raymondu999]

Ahhhhh still so long to go before the next season start!!! Can't wait how those 'traditional' top teams find their way to challenge those bulls!

Mark my words! RBR will not be the team to beat in 2012. McLaren will be. They know exactly what they have to do and they are working on it.

Most teams know what to do. Doing it is a very different issue altogether.