2024 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 01 - 03

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Re: 2024 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 01 - 03

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Since qualification is postponed to tomorrow, could it also impact the setup choices teams make? Park Fermée is tomorrow so teams have more time to crunch their track data.

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Gillian wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 22:30


Verstappen had great pace and was faster than both Leclerc and Piastri. Norris was slowed down by Piastri most of the sprint so hard to say how he and Verstappen compared. This was not like Austin where it was pretty clear both Ferrari and Mclaren had more pace.
This is exactly what we saw 2 weeks ago at COTA. He was faster than Piastri, Leclerc and even Norris in sprint, who was struggling with front gaining. Only Sainz was clearly faster than Max but lost too much race time in fights and behind others.
and yeah you are right, of course Lando would've been faster than Piastri in clear air today. There is a high chance Mclaren will adjust setup after the sprint as they did at COTA. Race is completely different story anyways because all year, the biggest advantage Mclaren have on hard tires. On first stints they all run on medium tire Max looked somewhat competitive (that's why it is also better in sprints all year), but it all changes on harder tire. and the longer the race goes the bigger the advantage of Mclaren gets. It was the same at COTA, in Mexico, Austria, Imola....all year basically. And actually, this is incredibly reminiscent of 2021 season, but it was Mercedes back then.

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I think it is clear that the sweetspot is small for Red Bull so they can nail one stint but have issues balancing it for the whole race.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 22:59
I think it is clear that the sweetspot is small for Red Bull so they can nail one stint but have issues balancing it for the whole race.
I think they can simply run their bib lower in the sprint. In the race they would simply wear it too much. Marko said they bumps kill them as they need to run the front high due to these.

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RBR can’t chance an excessive plank wear DSQ either. So they’ll have to run the car higher than is desirable in the full race.

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avantman wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 22:57
Gillian wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 22:30


Verstappen had great pace and was faster than both Leclerc and Piastri. Norris was slowed down by Piastri most of the sprint so hard to say how he and Verstappen compared. This was not like Austin where it was pretty clear both Ferrari and Mclaren had more pace.
This is exactly what we saw 2 weeks ago at COTA. He was faster than Piastri, Leclerc and even Norris in sprint, who was struggling with front gaining. Only Sainz was clearly faster than Max but lost too much race time in fights and behind others.
and yeah you are right, of course Lando would've been faster than Piastri in clear air today. There is a high chance Mclaren will adjust setup after the sprint as they did at COTA. Race is completely different story anyways because all year, the biggest advantage Mclaren have on hard tires. On first stints they all run on medium tire Max looked somewhat competitive (that's why it is also better in sprints all year), but it all changes on harder tire. and the longer the race goes the bigger the advantage of Mclaren gets. It was the same at COTA, in Mexico, Austria, Imola....all year basically. And actually, this is incredibly reminiscent of 2021 season, but it was Mercedes back then.
I think we saw a different COTA race. I had zero confidence in a Verstappen win for the race. It's looking a lot better now but we'll never know because the race, if any, will be very wet. So I will leave it at that.

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I found a weather model with very high-resolution for tomorrow. Expecting light-moderate rain for the entire day, which could than turn to heavy rain around 15.00h in the afternoon.

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ispano6 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 22:45
I don't know, but I was watching the sprint race, and McLaren's could not pull away from Max. Looked like he had better regen/deploy or battery store than Ferrari, possibly over McLaren as well. We will see with 5 place grid penalty but Max was not sliding like Lando was and Max would have passed Piastri and Lando after a few more laps. The race is 71 and will be a DRS tug-o-war.
In your mind, everything is going very well, but... Having received clean air, Lando immediately moved away from Oscar by 0.8 seconds, in just a couple of corners. And Oscar was faster than Verstappen on the straights, in the DRS zone.

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What is qualifying start time tomorrow?

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I think the FIA ​​should consider cancelling qualifying tomorrow and holding the race on Sunday morning, the time when qualifying would probably take place.

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Formula 1 fan 1996 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 23:20
What is qualifying start time tomorrow?
Not yet determined
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edu2703 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 23:23
I think the FIA ​​should consider cancelling qualifying tomorrow and holding the race on Sunday morning, the time when qualifying would probably take place.
I agree, that whould make the most sense, but how will the starting grid be determined, Sprint race finish or FP1?
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bauc wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 23:24
Formula 1 fan 1996 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 23:20
What is qualifying start time tomorrow?
Not yet determined
Okay.

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Take this with a grain of salt


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bauc wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 23:24
edu2703 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 23:23
I think the FIA ​​should consider cancelling qualifying tomorrow and holding the race on Sunday morning, the time when qualifying would probably take place.
I agree, that whould make the most sense, but how will the starting grid be determined, Sprint race finish or FP1?
Sprint qualifying would be the fairest in my opinion.