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[Crucial_Xtreme]

Yep - posted above. You were the first replier to that actually

Yeah I know it was posted above but I did not think Red Bull will move the exhausts back to the launch car /Jerez test position. They're really having problems figuring the car out.

[raymondu999]

Figuring the b-spec out I'd say

[Pandabeer]

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Why did you delete the picture? Was it not the MP4-27?

It looked to me like F-duct tubes! Which if true would be a bit of a coup!

yes.. it is RB8 not MP4-27...

Quoted vom McLaren MP4-27 Thread. I did not see the picture which was posted at "**deleted**"-post. Anything more specific about RB running a F-Duct system, or was it just nonsense?

[bonjon1979]

10.3.4 Non-structural parts of suspension members are considered bodywork.

No problem. Just bond the shields to the control arm and they become structural parts.

Brian

Yeah, I think it's an interesting one - what's to stop them bonding great big fins that redirect the exhausts to the control arm? I guess the FIA will have to make a judgement on what they define as 'structural'.

Then again, there are strict rules on the angles and size of the suspension members so perhaps there isn't too much that they could do with this. It's an interesting 'grey area' that I'm sure could be exploited somewhat.

However, this is probably a moot conversation as I really don't see them going back to the fully inboard exhaust solution, rather it'll be an early iteration of the outboard one,

[raymondu999]

They already are on the earliest outboard iterarion, and now want to compare that with the inboard.

[bonjon1979]

They already are on the earliest outboard iterarion, and now want to compare that with the inboard.

The solution they used in Malaysia was very different to the one they had in the final day of the Jerez test.

[raymondu999]

They already are on the earliest outboard iterarion, and now want to compare that with the inboard.

The solution they used in Malaysia was very different to the one they had in the final day of the Jerez test.

Gee. Thanks a bunch Captain Obvious.

The outboard solution was introduced in The penultimate day of the second test in Barcelona. In Jerez they used the inboard all the way.

The then changed the exhaust port to a square-ish outlet in Australia, and reverted to the test-end spec in Malaysia

[FrukostScones]

...Vettel will use a modified launch-spec version of the exhausts which will fit the rules...

in Malaysia race used Vettel used test spec 2 and Webber used the Australian spec..

Webber will continue with Australian spec and Vettel will test mod. test spec 1...

I think.

[raymondu999]

A modified spec, but it might not necessarily be a modified exhaust.

[FrukostScones]

A modified spec, but it might not necessarily be a modified exhaust.

the modification will alter the exhaust spec, if they have to modify because of the exhaust (maybe the pipe and the angles stay the same but still a modified exhaust inmyho)

[raymondu999]

in Malaysia race used Vettel used test spec 2 and Webber used the Australian spec..

nope. Both used the test spec 2

Webber will continue with Australian spec and Vettel will test mod. test spec 1...

webber is using the Malaysia spec, which is end-of-Barcelona spec. Vettel will use the launch spec, with a few mods.

the modification will alter the exhaust spec, if they have to modify because of the exhaust (maybe the pipe and the angles stay the same but still a modified exhaust inmyho)

The quote said a modified spec, so it's not necessarily the exhausts. It could be, but not necessarily.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

in Malaysia race used Vettel used test spec 2 and Webber used the Australian spec..

Not in the race. In practice they used different spec. Seb the Barca setup - Mark the Melbourne setup..

[bonjon1979]

They already are on the earliest outboard iterarion, and now want to compare that with the inboard.

The solution they used in Malaysia was very different to the one they had in the final day of the Jerez test.

Gee. Thanks a bunch Captain Obvious.

The outboard solution was introduced in The penultimate day of the second test in Barcelona. In Jerez they used the inboard all the way.

The then changed the exhaust port to a square-ish outlet in Australia, and reverted to the test-end spec in Malaysia

No need to be an obnoxious twat. Especially when you're wrong.

They aren't 'already on the earliest outboard iteration' as you stated and I pointed out. The exhaust they raced in Malaysia was very different to the earliest iteration of the outboard exhaust.

[raymondu999]

in Malaysia race used Vettel used test spec 2 and Webber used the Australian spec..

Not in the race. In practice they used different spec. Seb the Barca setup - Mark the Melbourne setup..

Yeah, but in the race they went back to the Barca B-spec.

They aren't 'already on the earliest outboard iteration' as you stated and I pointed out. The exhaust they raced in Malaysia was very different to the earliest iteration of the outboard exhaust.

The one they race din Melbourne was different. They went back to Barca B-spec in the Malaysia race.

[FrukostScones]

in Malaysia race used Vettel used test spec 2 and Webber used the Australian spec..

nope. Both used the test spec 2

Webber will continue with Australian spec and Vettel will test mod. test spec 1...

webber is using the Malaysia spec, which is end-of-Barcelona spec. Vettel will use the launch spec, with a few mods.

the modification will alter the exhaust spec, if they have to modify because of the exhaust (maybe the pipe and the angles stay the same but still a modified exhaust inmyho)

The quote said a modified spec, so it's not necessarily the exhausts. It could be, but not necessarily.

yep. Webber raced test spec 2, i was misguided by a wrong article and pics from friday where he used the Australian spec, so I guess Webber will continue with test spec 2. here it says modified exhausts of test spec 1 on Vettels car: http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 00485.html i think it was already posted by CX.