2022 Alpine F1 Team

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Bisonas wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 01:37
Stroll and Norris managed to improve a lot on their fresh tyre Q3 run. Alonso improved but not as much as the others. Sector 3 on his fresh tyre run, was not his best. He gave away 2-3 tenths there.
His first lap in Q3, on used softs was better. It's always a crapshoot when it's gusty like it was. We'll see how good his race pace is from 14th.

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diffuser wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 05:18
Bisonas wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 01:37
Stroll and Norris managed to improve a lot on their fresh tyre Q3 run. Alonso improved but not as much as the others. Sector 3 on his fresh tyre run, was not his best. He gave away 2-3 tenths there.
His first lap in Q3, on used softs was better. It's always a crapshoot when it's gusty like it was. We'll see how good his race pace is from 14th.
His first lap in Q3, on used softs went better considering the used softs, but it was not faster. It was just a matter of others around him finding a bit more time in their fresh tyre run. Alonso did managed to improve S2 by quite a lot but doing a slower S3 than what he did on used softs, you can tell that he gave away some time there. I do agree though that the wind gusts in Austin can make it a lottery sometimes.

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Bisonas wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 09:51
diffuser wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 05:18
Bisonas wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 01:37
Stroll and Norris managed to improve a lot on their fresh tyre Q3 run. Alonso improved but not as much as the others. Sector 3 on his fresh tyre run, was not his best. He gave away 2-3 tenths there.
His first lap in Q3, on used softs was better. It's always a crapshoot when it's gusty like it was. We'll see how good his race pace is from 14th.
His first lap in Q3, on used softs went better considering the used softs, but it was not faster. It was just a matter of others around him finding a bit more time in their fresh tyre run. Alonso did managed to improve S2 by quite a lot but doing a slower S3 than what he did on used softs, you can tell that he gave away some time there. I do agree though that the wind gusts in Austin can make it a lottery sometimes.
After going back and looking at the data, I'm not sure what he was doing or why. He was late on the brakes but missed apexs and that resulted in him being late on the throttle. The late on the throttle is where he lost all his time. So I don't understand why he was doing that.

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Apparent pitlane start for Ocon.

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Confirmed. Ocon pitlane start due to engine change and Alonso P13 due to Tsunoda penalty.

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jeffpilot wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 18:48
Confirmed. Ocon pitlane start due to engine change and Alonso P13 due to Tsunoda penalty.
is this confirmed as well? I'd think he keeps his +5 and Magnussen moves up instead

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I read 13th on motorsport but they’ve now changed to 14th…love these penalties!

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jeffpilot wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 18:48
Confirmed. Ocon pitlane start due to engine change and Alonso P13 due to Tsunoda penalty.
Good call. I was waiting for it.
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:-({|=

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It seems Alonso fault 60% for me

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Alonso 0% fault

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jeffpilot wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 23:08
Alonso 0% fault
How, a) it’s stroll, always worth expecting something weird.
B) he didn’t leave enough of a gap when trying to overtake.
For me 50/50

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Swed3121 wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 23:10
jeffpilot wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 23:08
Alonso 0% fault
How, a) it’s stroll, always worth expecting something weird.
B) he didn’t leave enough of a gap when trying to overtake.
For me 50/50
Because when you overtake you totally expect the driver infront to close you so late… Stroll was not expecting Alonso to be so fast and close without DRS and he either tried the move and if it works it works or his situational awareness is crap…
Team Fernando!

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I won’t debate blame, as it’s so clear cut for me under racing rules. Just what an amazing drive from Alonso. I’m sure many would have retired at the side of the road as it’s such an unknown if anything else on the car was broken or about to break. Huge courage from Alonso! The team will miss him.

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For me it was 90/10 Strolls Fault. And i give a 10% fault to Alonso because he was in the middle of the straight, closing in so fast, in a very wide part of the track, so he could just move more to the left, just to be on the safe side. It was an almost guaranteed pass either way.

As for Stroll, doing what he did when he sees a car closing in so fast in the middle of the straight, not even just before the braking zone, or something, it was unacceptable. A driver should always know when a pass is inevitable and when is not. Because trying to defend an inevitable pass like this, at those speeds, one way or another it will probably end up either badly, or controversial.

If i where FIA i would give 3-5 grid drop penanlty for the next race and at least 2 penalty points to stroll, just to make an example of this. But i am not FIA, it is just how i feel atm.

Great Drive from Alonso. His race today was probably one of the best of the year, considering everything that happened, and how he kept coming back, and how he kept showing excellent speed, no matter the damage or the downforce points he was lacking.

He was fortunate non the less, (besides continuing after the crash) for not being forced to pit again because of his mirror. We have seen Black and Orange flags for far less this year.

It's one of those races that Rossi and Szafnauer will be looking at each other, and probably thinking silently how badly they miss judged the Alonso situation before the summer break.
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