2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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[SirBastianVettel]

Already? If you ask me it's actually kind of late to switch to '24 for a team that is dominating this much in the budget cap era and has a penalty on the amount of CFD/windtunnel allowance.

[GCXX]

Already? If you ask me it's actually kind of late to switch to '24 for a team that is dominating this much in the budget cap era and has a penalty on the amount of CFD/windtunnel allowance.

Why? The regs. stay the same next season.

[SirBastianVettel]

Already? If you ask me it's actually kind of late to switch to '24 for a team that is dominating this much in the budget cap era and has a penalty on the amount of CFD/windtunnel allowance.

Why? The regs. stay the same next season.

But why not develop another big update for this season? Even if you introduce a big update in the last couple of races you could learn a lot from testing them on track so you can develop the entire winter with the knowledge you gained.

Now they will develop for 7 months without knowing for sure if what they are developing will work on track. To me it seems better if you are not planning a new chassis to keep bringing update all the way till the end of the season.

[Espresso]

But why not develop another big update for this season? Even if you introduce a big update in the last couple of races you could learn a lot from testing them on track so you can develop the entire winter with the knowledge you gained.

Now they will develop for 7 months without knowing for sure if what they are developing will work on track. To me it seems better if you are not planning a new chassis to keep bringing update all the way till the end of the season.

To not bring out something other teams can copy. Deploy developments when needed is a common strategy.
Bring it out now and other teams get inspiration. Just as they did now with the current concept.

Take for example MB ´Power on Demand´ strategy. They just turned up the engine when needed to stay ahead.
And they did this for years.
Only when Honda accelerated development MB hit the ceiling/limit.

[chrisc90]

Yeah, don’t bring your secrets too early or others can copy and evaluate.

Same happened with RB at the start of the aero era. And same as Mercedes delaying their zero pod concept to stop others copying.

[tmoneyr007]

Glad nobody got the ability to copy that trash concept.

Yeah, don’t bring your secrets too early or others can copy and evaluate.

Same happened with RB at the start of the aero era. And same as Mercedes delaying their zero pod concept to stop others copying.

[ringo]

They are well placed to switch to 2024 from now.
Remember that they can continue to collect data on this 2023 car and correlate for 2024 with even things such as suspension settings and aero rakes.
They can treat the rest of the season like a big winter test.
The priority of the free practices can be testing rather than setting up to win the race.
Knowing they have the dominant concept is a huge advantage they will have over the others.

[hollus]

A few people reported on posts that would belong in the race thread or the AT team thread.
Just some feedback:
a) thanks for reporting, they kind of did.
b) I decided to leave them in here. As on topic. We all know that RIC has just been accepted in the academy as a junior driver… driver politics in RB for 2024 is defo on topic here. IMO.

[Alexf1]

A few people reported on posts that would belong in the race thread or the AT team thread.
Just some feedback:
a) thanks for reporting, they kind of did.
b) I decided to leave them in here. As on topic. We all know that RIC has just been accepted in the academy as a junior driver… driver politics in RB for 2024 is defo on topic here. IMO.

Cause it isn't: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... RsF9e.html

[hollus]

True, maybe, in the future. Still same owner, but in any case, AFAIK RIC has a RB contract. So he is a prospect for a ‘24 RB seat.

[djos]

True, maybe, in the future. Still same owner, but in any case, AFAIK RIC has a RB contract. So he is a prospect for a ‘24 RB seat.

Correct, he's on loan to AT.

https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/da ... 023-season

[Willy]

True, maybe, in the future. Still same owner, but in any case, AFAIK RIC has a RB contract. So he is a prospect for a ‘24 RB seat.

Correct, he's on loan to AT.

https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/da ... 023-season

It doesn't mean the Hungary performance of Daniel and Tsunoda are RB team thread topics.

[PlatinumZealot]

This has gone too far.

FIA MUST get Sergio Perez out of that RedBull seat and put in a driver that can keep Max on his toes.

The car is 1 second a lap faster with a mature and reliable engine and WILL win all races, absolutely no doubt! For the health of the sport Max must not be allowed to continue with the number 2 driver that is Sergio Perez. It's too darned easy for him now. Did you all see when Max was complaining about cleaning the marbles off his tyres for cyring out loud?!

I sincerely hope this was also your point of view in the pre-2021 years, eitherwise you're looking a bit foolish.

Looking at your signature, I am afraid that...

There was competition...fights for the win...

To stay on topic, Red Bull doesn't seem to mind as long as the car is miles ahead of the competition

[Wouter]

Max as ambassador for Heineken now becomes an actor.