2022 Alpine F1 Team

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https://www.planetf1.com/news/alpine-no ... do-alonso/
It is not the first time he has lost out on a good result, Spanish daily AS claiming he should have ’50 or 60 points’ more.

It begs the question have Alpine let him down, something team boss Szafnauer was quick to deny.

“It’s not that we’re failing Fernando, there are several reasons why he hasn’t scored points,” he told the publication.

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They have the worst engine reliabilty of all the manufacturers.

I understand that they are pushing for maximum performance and don't want to run a power deficit to other teams, but they will be pretty limited if they can't work out this question. Alonso should be higher in the rankings and the race with McLaren should have been over long ago.

They are basically eating their engine twice faster than the others teams and have it break down during the race. I mean, Alonso changed his engine just last week and now it's already dead...

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So a grid drop in Brazil then?
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Looking back at that list of issues this year Australia, Canada and Austria really hurt the most. These tracks were perfect for the car's characteristics. Podium was possible this year at least once

And that's not to say ocon hasn't had issues either. Alpine need to take a hard look at themselves and the points they've lost this year
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AR3-GP wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 01:22
So a grid drop in Brazil then?
What choice does he have? The good news is you can pass at Brazil. It rains often too..leading to a crazy races.

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I was following along with Alonso the whole race. His engineer kept saying that all the temps where ok. When his engineer told him that Ricciardo had switched to softs and was running 1:22s, Alonso said don't worry I have alot more pace I'm not using!Then the battery failed. They ran like that for a few laps. Then when Botas got close, they diverted full power to the ICE, I guess they turned off the MHU-H. The ICE blew the next Lap.
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diffuser wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 02:00
AR3-GP wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 01:22
So a grid drop in Brazil then?
What choice does he have? The good news is you can pass at Brazil. It rains often too..leading to a crazy races.
I was trying to be sarcastic! :wink:
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31 Oct 2022, 02:08
I was following along with Alonso the whole race. His engineer kept saying that all the temps where ok. When his engineer told him that Ricciardo had switched to softs and was running 1:22s, Alonso said don't worry I have alot more pace I'm not using!Then the battery failed. They ran like that for a few laps. Then when Botas got close, they diverted full power to the ICE, I guess they turned off the MHU-H. The ICE blew the next Lap.
They should have parked the car after the battery failed. Quite amateur decision making as a mere 5 place grid drop for the energy store becomes 15+ grid drop when the ICE when bang.
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31 Oct 2022, 02:09
diffuser wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 02:08
I was following along with Alonso the whole race. His engineer kept saying that all the temps where ok. When his engineer told him that Ricciardo had switched to softs and was running 1:22s, Alonso said don't worry I have alot more pace I'm not using!Then the battery failed. They ran like that for a few laps. Then when Botas got close, they diverted full power to the ICE, I guess they turned off the MHU-H. The ICE blew the next Lap.
They should have parked the car after the battery failed. Quite amateur decision making as a mere 5 place grid drop for the energy store becomes 15+ grid drop when the ICE when bang.
Sorry I added an edit...

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diffuser wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 02:14
AR3-GP wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 02:09
diffuser wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 02:08
I was following along with Alonso the whole race. His engineer kept saying that all the temps where ok. When his engineer told him that Ricciardo had switched to softs and was running 1:22s, Alonso said don't worry I have alot more pace I'm not using!Then the battery failed. They ran like that for a few laps. Then when Botas got close, they diverted full power to the ICE, I guess they turned off the MHU-H. The ICE blew the next Lap.
They should have parked the car after the battery failed. Quite amateur decision making as a mere 5 place grid drop for the energy store becomes 15+ grid drop when the ICE when bang.
Sorry I added an edit...
Yep I've seen that. It's a shame because I remember when Ricciardo had half an engine in Monaco that one year and still managed to finish.
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AR3-GP wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 02:16
diffuser wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 02:14
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31 Oct 2022, 02:09


They should have parked the car after the battery failed. Quite amateur decision making as a mere 5 place grid drop for the energy store becomes 15+ grid drop when the ICE when bang.
Sorry I added an edit...
Yep I've seen that. It's a shame because I remember when Ricciardo had half an engine in Monaco that one year and still managed to finish.
Not that Alonso will benefit but they have more things to fix on the PU because of it.

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On another note, Alonso was lapping much faster than Ricciardo at the end of thier Medium tire stints. Alonso could have very easily gone to softs. It would have been the faster strategy.
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31 Oct 2022, 11:32
On another note, Alonso was lapping much faster than Ricciardo was at the end of thier Medium tire stints. Alonso could have very easily gone to softs. It would have been the faster strategy.
Ricciardo still had new softs, Alonso didn't, so I guess that played a part there in their decision. Alfa made the same mistake with Bottas

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Ocon doesn't mention that the only reason they took a new PU on his side of the garage in Austin is because his own performance led to being knocked out in Q1.

He should be embarrassed that old decrepit 41 year old Alonso is visibly the superior driver rather than try and build a narrative that he has been hit with as many issues as Alonso. :? It's disingenuous.
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02 Nov 2022, 21:18
Ocon doesn't mention that the only reason they took a new PU on his side of the garage in Austin is because his own performance led to being knocked out in Q1.

He should be embarrassed that old decrepit 41 year old Alonso is visibly the superior driver rather than try and build a narrative that he has been hit with as many issues as Alonso. :? It's disingenuous.
No shame in getting beaten by Alonso, There isn't a team mate of Alonso that hasn't felt that way, including F1 Champion Villeneuve.


I agree, Alonso is on it every race weekend. Ocon, not so much. Sometime his is, sometime he's not on it and he get's on it very late (like he's studying Alonso's data) then finally figures it out in Q3. Other times he just slow the whole weekend.

Ocon's fighting for his career and is will to lie an cheat to keep it.