I believe that there is a good probability that the team can make that jump through development... RP is a great team and they are learning about the W10, so they should also be able to improve it, but I would put my money on Mclaren “outdeveloping” them through the season.fouad1979 wrote:Our drivers are stronger for sure we just need some more upgrades to beat the pink everywhereSmallSoldier wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 17:05Yes, the RP’s are fast everywhere... And we should expect a rough Hungary GP... But it still early to make assessments in regards to pace, but the fact that we are close to them means that “If” we are behind, we could make the jump forward with development... If there is a difference, it doesn’t feel as huge one.Ground Effect wrote: Not sure, I think we can only beat them on strategy, for now. Like Norris said, they’re fast everywhere.
Also, with the teams been so close, the drivers are making a difference and we have a very good line-up
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Well the copycats as u name them can be developed 2 so we just have to be careful and produce effective parts cause this weekend we tweaked the car and i dont think we get faster by doin itDarth-Piekus wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 17:16Mclaren in my opinion is the fastest team in development. Look at how much we are closing the gap each year to the front. Those copycats can't possible be able to develop that car too much more. On the other hand our car has started from a zero base and can give us a huge development and definately leagues more than Racing Point.
What worry me is we were slower this week and all our rivals went faster we must progress not regress and also in the pits we must improve the redbull today in the pits were impressiveSmallSoldier wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 17:19I believe that there is a good probability that the team can make that jump through development... RP is a great team and they are learning about the W10, so they should also be able to improve it, but I would put my money on Mclaren “outdeveloping” them through the season.fouad1979 wrote:Our drivers are stronger for sure we just need some more upgrades to beat the pink everywhereSmallSoldier wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 17:05
Yes, the RP’s are fast everywhere... And we should expect a rough Hungary GP... But it still early to make assessments in regards to pace, but the fact that we are close to them means that “If” we are behind, we could make the jump forward with development... If there is a difference, it doesn’t feel as huge one.
Also, with the teams been so close, the drivers are making a difference and we have a very good line-up
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With a high downforce race coming up next weekend, it will be interesting to see if the current performance and the gaps that seem to exist between the teams are still there or there are big changes... Zak’s comments, which are very cautious seems to indicate that we still don’t know how the performance compares in a different type of circuit... Racing Point was very good on the slow sections of Barcelona during testing and the W10 was very fast in Hungary last year, so I wouldn’t be surprised if RP are strong next week also.
We can only wait, but Hungary is a race that doesn’t allow many overtakes, hopefully our one lap pace helps get the team in a good position towards the race.
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Problem I see that Racing Point will have is that they developed their car based on W10 and now they are copying W11 designs and strapping them onto W10 base. This might work partially but probably won't work as good as it should. I doubt they can copy over entire chassis and deploy a pink W11. This will mean that they will have a hybrid car that is a dead end development wise.
I actually think Hungary will be good to us. The car is looking good on lighter fuel and if we qualify well, we can easily hold track position. Also, some of the Mercedes power advantage would be nullified, though I don’t think it is much.
Different track conditions... The track was cooler and greener compared to last week and that could have had an effect on performance.fouad1979 wrote:What worry me is we were slower this week and all our rivals went faster we must progress not regress and also in the pits we must improve the redbull today in the pits were impressiveSmallSoldier wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 17:19I believe that there is a good probability that the team can make that jump through development... RP is a great team and they are learning about the W10, so they should also be able to improve it, but I would put my money on Mclaren “outdeveloping” them through the season.fouad1979 wrote: Our drivers are stronger for sure we just need some more upgrades to beat the pink everywhere
With a high downforce race coming up next weekend, it will be interesting to see if the current performance and the gaps that seem to exist between the teams are still there or there are big changes... Zak’s comments, which are very cautious seems to indicate that we still don’t know how the performance compares in a different type of circuit... Racing Point was very good on the slow sections of Barcelona during testing and the W10 was very fast in Hungary last year, so I wouldn’t be surprised if RP are strong next week also.
We can only wait, but Hungary is a race that doesn’t allow many overtakes, hopefully our one lap pace helps get the team in a good position towards the race.
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How soon we forget how we screw Sainz's race? Sainz could have fought will Albon.Mansell89 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 16:40What a last lap from Lando- brilliant again from the team on strategy and making the right call to let him through.
Racing Point showed their pace and we know we have a massive challenge on our hands but so pleased we have come out with the points we have having executed excellent race days.
If he was quick enough for that Lando would not have caught him. It was team work, and well done to Carlos for it.diffuser wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 17:38How soon we forget how we screw Sainz's race? Sainz could have fought will Albon.Mansell89 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 16:40What a last lap from Lando- brilliant again from the team on strategy and making the right call to let him through.
Racing Point showed their pace and we know we have a massive challenge on our hands but so pleased we have come out with the points we have having executed excellent race days.
Don't go crazys with Norris's race. Alot of it was just circumstances. No contact between Perez/Albon and the incident between Stroll/Ricardo, he probably just makes up 1 place. Yes he did a good job and got some help from Sainz.
Not sure why you think our high fuel pace is an issue. We were 5th, that's best of the rest. Our car isn't faster than RBR, We get close with Albon driving but that's about it. Sainz let him past cause we weren't racing them.fouad1979 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 16:44Yes we have a problem i was surprised we were more than 1s slowerGround Effect wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 16:41If we can’t fix our race pace/high fuel pace quickly, then we can’t afford to have pit stops like today. That should be easier to take care of.