2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[maguetox]

Spec 3 has not delivered simple as. Albon was quicker than Danny.
Im up for a wager that either Riccardo or Norris will outqualify Gasly.

You're up to be delusional once again. Albon was quicker than Danny?? Did you notice that Kvyat has a penalty and will start last? So why lose time with qualifying runs?? You should think a little before posting bs

He is trolling for the love of doing it, just to have fun, don´t pay attention to him.

[godlameroso]

He was lapping the high 35's low 36's, Hamilton could dip into the mid to low 35's. Granted we don't know the fuel levels, or engine modes being ran, mistakes made by drivers, setup related. Seems that again they're there or thereabouts, as is Ferrari, but Mercedes seems to be ahead by ~.4 seconds, in other words the gap has not changed at all. Hopefully there's a little more to come from RB as they dial the car in for tomorrow, and if by some miracle Mercedes cannot improve much they will still have a qualifying advantage, however it bodes well for the race. Tires will be an issue, the soft compound will not be race friendly. The other two compounds are hard to read, a lot of graining, the rear left tire works fine all the others slip out of the window too easily. Front left graining was especially noticeable on a lot of cars today.

Being kind on it's tires will be an advantage, however the RB looks like a complete handful, especially under braking, the fact that it's still so much better than the other cars says something.

You have to drive these cars in a very timid way because they're too snappy at the limit in certain instances.

[Wouter]

MAX VERSTAPPEN

We still have some work to do but we looked reasonably competitive against Ferrari. Mercedes are still too quick but we will look at the data and see what we can improve for tomorrow. The tyres are not that easy to predict and it seems that the softest compound is not a lot faster than the medium, which will make things quite interesting in qualifying. All in all, it wasn’t a bad day and we were able to make lots of changes, especially this morning, to fine tune our set-up for the rest of the weekend.

Q2 on the Medium?

[NL_Fer]

Mediums for sure, soft is not that much faster. Probably soft is overheated halfway the lap.

[Marti_EF3]

Only for information, but I'm seeing now the FP1, and Albert Fabrega said that the next PU upgrade is expected MAYBE on German GP. Because Honda has split this the upgrade in 2 steps. Also said that he heard some voices on STR that Albon will do all remaining races until Germany with the Spec 2 to test the reliability, and then take all the full upgrades. It's a rumor, don't take it more seriously than that, but I felt that it's useful maybe.

[loner]

Only for information, but I'm seeing now the FP1, and Albert Fabrega said that the next PU upgrade is expected MAYBE on German GP. Because Honda has split this the upgrade in 2 steps. Also said that he heard some voices on STR that Albon will do all remaining races until Germany with the Spec 2 to test the reliability, and then take all the full upgrades. It's a rumor, don't take it more seriously than that, but I felt that it's useful maybe.

here is what i said earlier

so my guess from Fabrega tweet will be this update is in 2 parts one will debut in France and the other part the (major) one will be some where before summer end.. how this can be regarding the spec 4 in September update i have no clue.. will they go with 5 PU?!!

That's what Marko said at the start of the season, no, 5 PUs ?

iam not aware but seems so after googled it
if we take the current pattern an update after 4 races you still have 2 updates one at Hungary and finally in Russia
however i highly doubt an update will occur in Hungary since its a winnable race.

so Germany it is ...

[Marti_EF3]

Only for information, but I'm seeing now the FP1, and Albert Fabrega said that the next PU upgrade is expected MAYBE on German GP. Because Honda has split this the upgrade in 2 steps. Also said that he heard some voices on STR that Albon will do all remaining races until Germany with the Spec 2 to test the reliability, and then take all the full upgrades. It's a rumor, don't take it more seriously than that, but I felt that it's useful maybe.

here is what i said earlier

so my guess from Fabrega tweet will be this update is in 2 parts one will debut in France and the other part the (major) one will be some where before summer end.. how this can be regarding the spec 4 in September update i have no clue.. will they go with 5 PU?!!

That's what Marko said at the start of the season, no, 5 PUs ?

iam not aware but seems so after googled it
if we take the current pattern an update after 4 races you still have 2 updates one at Hungary and finally in Russia
however i highly doubt an update will occur in Hungary since its a winnable race.

so Germany it is ...

Sorry, read it but I did't remember at the time I was posting

[Wouter]

Only for information, but I'm seeing now the FP1, and Albert Fabrega said that the next PU upgrade is expected MAYBE on German GP. Because Honda has split this the upgrade in 2 steps. Also said that he heard some voices on STR that Albon will do all remaining races until Germany with the Spec 2 to test the reliability, and then take all the full upgrades. It's a rumor, don't take it more seriously than that, but I felt that it's useful maybe.

Thank you @Marti. Every information is welcome from Albert Fabrega. We can't watch Spanish TV over here.
I feel sorry for Albon, if it is true.

[Marti_EF3]

Only for information, but I'm seeing now the FP1, and Albert Fabrega said that the next PU upgrade is expected MAYBE on German GP. Because Honda has split this the upgrade in 2 steps. Also said that he heard some voices on STR that Albon will do all remaining races until Germany with the Spec 2 to test the reliability, and then take all the full upgrades. It's a rumor, don't take it more seriously than that, but I felt that it's useful maybe.

Thank you @Marti. Every information is welcome from Albert Fabrega. We can't watch Spanish TV over here.
I feel sorry for Albon, if it is true.

Yes, we've good info here on the Spanish TV thanks to him

[ispano6]

Max Verstappen

Red Bull weaknesses a legacy of front-wing rules

"I don't think it's because the Honda engine came into the back [that Red Bull's chassis got worse]," he said. "It's just with the regulation changes, the front wing especially became a lot more basic.

"But we were really good at controlling everything that was happening with the front wing last year, and the year before. So they took a bit more of our strength away. We have to fine-tune around it.

"Maybe in the beginning of the season so far we have not optimised that, and we know that. We're trying to get back on top of it."
"You always want to go faster through corners. It's not like we have a fundamental problem or anything it's just trying to add bits to the car which gives you more grip.

"When you get more grip, it's better for tyres. As you could see last year we were always really good in the race.

"That meant we had a really good car, that was looking after its tyres quite well. We just need a bit more top speed as well, then everything becomes easier."

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... -/4478668/

Seems more and more that the regulations favor Mercedes!

[godlameroso]

Ross Brawn effect?

[chrisgr]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... -/4478668/

Seems more and more that the regulations favor Mercedes!

Maybe there is some truth in it but let's be fair. When the regulations change, they change for all the teams.

[etusch]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... -/4478668/

Seems more and more that the regulations favor Mercedes!

Maybe there is some truth in it but let's be fair. When the regulations change, they change for all the teams.

This "same for everyone sentence" is nonsense.
Let's think that we built a long straights and a rule say that who will reach highest speed he will take the pole. This rule is same for everyone but it gives pole directly Ferrari, isn't it?

[GPR-A]

Maybe there is some truth in it but let's be fair. When the regulations change, they change for all the teams.

This "same for everyone sentence" is nonsense.
Let's think that we built a long straights and a rule say that who will reach highest speed he will take the pole. This rule is same for everyone but it gives pole directly Ferrari, isn't it?

If that regulation is published with a minimum of 12 months in advance, like all regulations do, then who is to say Honda wouldn't build a PU that can win that drag race? OR Mercedes OR even Renault? Given a set of regulations and a good amount of advance time, whoever does the best job, deserves to win. In that respect, "the rules are same for everyone".

[etusch]

This "same for everyone sentence" is nonsense.
Let's think that we built a long straights and a rule say that who will reach highest speed he will take the pole. This rule is same for everyone but it gives pole directly Ferrari, isn't it?

If that regulation is published with a minimum of 12 months in advance, like all regulations do, then who is to say Honda wouldn't build a PU that can win that drag race? OR Mercedes OR even Renault? Given a set of regulations and a good amount of advance time, whoever does the best job, deserves to win. In that respect, "the rules are same for everyone".

Ok all others add more power and Ferrari just wait to be passed by rivals. If it were so easy why they could not do by now.
Of course there are possibilities but that kind of rule in a condition I mentioned is obviously for favor of Ferrari, if there were such a condition