You guys realise that Button just drives to what the car can do? Statistically he should finish third and that's exactly what he did.
Vettel's gearbox problem was real. I could hear the gearbox clunking when he came into the pits.
That's always kind of been Button's style though hasn't it. The rare-ish times when you see him transcend the car are more born out of opportunistic moments rather than speed/racecraft.n smikle wrote:You guys realise that Button just drives to what the car can do?
There were sluggish shifts? As in, are you speculating that that is what happened, or was it actually announced on commentary? I don't remember that happening... but I could be wrong.beelsebob wrote:I think he's speculating that sluggish up/downshifts might explain why he seemed to drop performance between practice and qualifying.
Ok , jokes off. Love sticking it to the vettel fans.WhiteBlue wrote:I nominate ringo for the "joker of the race" award.ringo wrote:Conclusion: ... Webber kicked Vettel's but, case close. ...
Technically it can be seen as a team order (just like "save fuel"). And Webber gained a position in the championship so Red Bull did have a reason to issue the team order.WhiteBlue wrote:For me the wrong man won, if you go by personal performance. On the other hand Webber had enough bad luck this season. So Vettel's technical glitches in Abu Dhabi and Interlagos were a bit of an equalizer for him. This time Mark fought his way up to P2 in qualifying which he did not do consistently this year and was in a perfect position to capitalize from Vettel's gearbox problem. So he deserved to win this race.
I think it is nonsense to call this team order. Webber did not benefit in the championship against Button and Alonso. So Red Bull had no reason to issue team orders, but they had a perfect reason to worry about the loss of a one-two finish if Vettel and Webber had fought very hard on track. Vettel did the right thing to concede the position to Webber and give his team a perfect finish.
Did Button not have 2 collisions in Cananda, where he could easily have been on the wrong end of either of them.Senna and Schumacher got it both wrong and both suffered. It was not necessary to have two collisions in one corner. Particularly the second could have been avoided. I hate to see Michael getting involved in such actions. It is nice to see that he is still 100% committed but one has to ask the question why he does not use his considerable advantage of experience to keep out of collisions. Button is a guy who demonstrates that skill and he gets a lot of respect for it.
Most teams allow the guy in front to always pit first regardless of what happens.Mr.S wrote:I never see Webber getting the preference in any stategy calls.
Yeh last years was much better, also because it was a truly epic season. Still nothing will beat ITVs 97 ending credits (I miss Murray):raymondu999 wrote:Most teams allow the guy in front to always pit first regardless of what happens.Mr.S wrote:I never see Webber getting the preference in any stategy calls.
As an aside, here's BBC's season ending credits. I preferred last year's ending credits though, with Just Drive.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h90G6EeodME[/youtube]
Agreed!!!!!ringo wrote:Conclusion:
Sutil driver of the race. Give him Massa's seat for 2012!!
Webber kicked Vettel's but, case close. End of season.
See you next year folks!!