2014 Design

[Huntresa]

Did you clip the 150mm from the front wing width?

Yes. As you can see, the visual impact of the change is very small.

But looking at this image it doesnt look like youve taken 15cm of the FW, more like 1.5cm

[turbof1]

Just wanting a bit of input here. For next year, the beam wing is getting removed, which means the rear wing needs to be fitted on something else. The obvious solution is on the rear crash structure with pillars, but are there possible different solutions which do not involve the pillars, leaving that area open? I remember from 2009 that teams extended the rear wing endplates completely to the diffuser sidewalls. Could that give the needed rigidity?

Edit: apperently Red Bull succeeded in that back in 2009, without pillars, though of course the beam wing was still attached and might have given the extra needed rigidity.

[wesley123]

the problem is that that would require a much more rigid floor as well as end plates, it would increase overall weight plus flex would be much more of a problem.

[Huntresa]

Just wanting a bit of input here. For next year, the beam wing is getting removed, which means the rear wing needs to be fitted on something else. The obvious solution is on the rear crash structure with pillars, but are there possible different solutions which do not involve the pillars, leaving that area open? I remember from 2009 that teams extended the rear wing endplates completely to the diffuser sidewalls. Could that give the needed rigidity?

Edit: apperently Red Bull succeeded in that back in 2009, without pillars, though of course the beam wing was still attached and might have given the extra needed rigidity.
http://images.gpupdate.net/large/123372.jpg

Its this then http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 7/647.html

[turbof1]

the problem is that that would require a much more rigid floor as well as end plates, it would increase overall weight plus flex would be much more of a problem.

Isn't that convenient. They have to add up alot of weight for next year and the weight would then be placed rather low.

[Kolin68]

https://plus.google.com/photos/yourphot ... 6548681810

[Huntresa]

https://plus.google.com/photos/yourphot ... 6548681810

That link isnt working, it direct you to your own photos, as in my photos not yours.

[Kolin68]

https://./photos/yourphotos?pid=5900731511565495650&oid=108827790736548681810

Что ссылка не работает, он направит вас на собственные фотографии, как в мои фотографии, не твое.

https://twitter.com/Kolins68/status/357 ... 24/photo/1

[Huntresa]

https://./photos/yourphotos?pid=5900731511565495650&oid=108827790736548681810

Что ссылка не работает, он направит вас на собственные фотографии, как в мои фотографии, не твое.

https://twitter.com/Kolins68/status/357 ... 24/photo/1

Bargeboards wont be removed.

[astracrazy]

i know they were planning to, but are there any rules restricting the fw cascades?

[Huntresa]

i know they were planning to, but are there any rules restricting the fw cascades?

I asked Scarbs that question after he did his 2014 post and he said "No cascades were always going to be there. there was a rule to simplify the endplates which appears to have been dropped!"

[bonjon1979]

Did you clip the 150mm from the front wing width?

Yes. As you can see, the visual impact of the change is very small.

But looking at this image it doesnt look like youve taken 15cm of the FW, more like 1.5cm

http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/600/h2x7.jpg

Looks right to me, 7.5cm on each side.

[SectorOne]

Looks like 7.5mm to me.

[SectorOne]

Actually...did some quick photoshop work and it seems to be a much less visible change then what some illustrations have shown.

I don´t know the width of the Pirelli´s but one rule said it has to be between 305 and 355 so i chose 330 and the graphics show 82.5mm reduction instead of the actual 75mm



EDIT: also, how will this help decrease drag? I thought the front wing (current spec) guided airflow around the front tire and thus lowered the drag because of that.
Now with a narrower front wing it seems guiding airflow around the tire will be tougher.

I was under the impression the tires were the draggiest bit on a car (except for maybe wings) and that the more air you deflect around it the better in terms of drag.

[matt21]

Do you think they will come up with the inverted-U-shaped plates on the lower endplate edges again? I think they were vortex generators.