2016 F1 Spanish Grand Prix

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Having an upgraded PU compared to your teammate sure pays off!

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better......

Just like you kept telling yourself in the past that Mercedes is favouring Nico and everything bad happening to Lewis is a conspiracy. =D>

From 2015 onwards, Lewis kept getting something on the car that was ACTUALLY BETTER than Nico was getting and that is how he was beating Nico in qualifying. Even this year at Australia and Bahrain, he secretly got a Nitro boost somewhere in that PU that no one knows.

[giantfan10]

I believe the drop in pace from Ferrari has mostly to do with tyre pressures and temps. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrari tried to venture some tyre pressure trick inspired by RBR. If so, driving lower pressures comes with quite a bit more tyre flex which influences the suspension. Dampers would probably have to be adjusted to compensate the different type of bounce and flexing a softer tyre gives. Then you also have to deal with how different the tyre will heat and having trouble getting into the ideal temp window.

It's all hypothetical but it's a bit of a coincidence this 'weird' unexplainable thing with Ferrari happens now. Both Ferrari's were off the pace, Kimi's less, but he did some damage limitation changing his setup after P3. And a slight setup change won't make you suddenly more than a second slower, it will mostly make the car more snappy or less predictable.

i think its purely due to setup with an eye on the cooler temperatures today and it didnt work out for them. both cars did have issues with oversteer during Q3..

It's hard to believe it was a STRATEGIC GAMBLE. You don't stray as far off as, potentially, A SECOND, due to CONSCIOUS set up variation! It must be something of a mess up and probably done without fully understanding the impact. If it is in fact something they don't understand, then they are going to be chasing the Red Bull diffusers throughout the race. I am trying to recall, when was the last time they were in such a mess for so many races.

Go figure you having the point of view that you have.... lets see what happens in the race... lets have a wager shall we? i say Vettel finishes ahead of both Red Bulls... i win and you dont post for a week and vice versa.
lets review this great mess Ferrari are in.......Australia... bad call and lost a winnable race (3rd).....Bahrain blown engine (2nd)... China.. Kvyat... (2nd) Russia... Kvyat (3rd) where is this great mess that you speak of?
we have seen this Red bull Hype movie before as recently as china when both Ferraris made mistakes in qualifying... reality set in once the race got going... i guess this is part 2 of that movie

[CLKGTR]

Where can I find remaining tyre sets for each driver after qualy? Sorry if already posted somewhere...

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Go figure you having the point of view that you have.... lets see what happens in the race... lets have a wager shall we? i say Vettel finishes ahead of both Red Bulls... i win and you dont post for a week and vice versa.
lets review this great mess Ferrari are in.......Australia... bad call and lost a winnable race (3rd).....Bahrain blown engine (2nd)... China.. Kvyat... (2nd) Russia... Kvyat (3rd) where is this great mess that you speak of?
we have seen this Red bull Hype movie before as recently as china when both Ferraris made mistakes in qualifying... reality set in once the race got going... i guess this is part 2 of that movie

I didn't said, Ferrari is responsible for entire mess, although I maintain they are an incapable team. I was more referring to being the absolute second best team, haven't got things going for them and staying just a hand's stretch away from a resurgent Red Bull.
As far Red Bull faltering like in China, you are aware that this is not a power sensitive circuit and a heavily downforce dependent, plus, a circuit which is ridiculous to overtake. If you would have watched yesterday's GP2, you would have seen, how difficult it was for even those simple cars to overtake. Vettel can still get ahead of Red Bulls at the start OR through an undercut. But I wouldn't be surprised if he stays behind.
As far me giving up on Posting, what's fun in a world if it is all about peace and happiness around.

[henra]

It must be something of a mess up and probably done without fully understanding the impact. If it is in fact something they don't understand, then they are going to be chasing the Red Bull diffusers throughout the race.

It is quite likely they don't really understand what happened to them. Otherwise they would have avoided it. Especially on a circuit where overtaking is historically proven quite difficult.

And yes- somehow Ferrari managed to make a mess and attract bad luck for the beginning of the season while having a quite OK car and a good PU. Probably the best Ferrari car/PU combo for a number of years.
Looking at the Turn- around with Lewis yesterday would at least give some hope that any streak of bad luck and misfortune is bound to end finally. Hopefully the Reds will make this turnaround soon- for the sake of an interesting season. From his mentality (and raw pace if the car suits him) a Vettel in Championship mode in an at least half- competitive car is probably the only one on the grid to properly challenge Lewis on a sustained basis. Unfortunately Nico is not. He has good races now and then but once the pressure builds he tends to f**k up.

[GrayGreat]

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better......

Just like you kept telling yourself in the past that Mercedes is favouring Nico and everything bad happening to Lewis is a conspiracy. =D>

From 2015 onwards, Lewis kept getting something on the car that was ACTUALLY BETTER than Nico was getting and that is how he was beating Nico in qualifying. Even this year at Australia and Bahrain, he secretly got a Nitro boost somewhere in that PU that no one knows.

So funny I forgot to laugh.

[giantfan10]

It must be something of a mess up and probably done without fully understanding the impact. If it is in fact something they don't understand, then they are going to be chasing the Red Bull diffusers throughout the race.

It is quite likely they don't really understand what happened to them. Otherwise they would have avoided it. Especially on a circuit where overtaking is historically proven quite difficult.

And yes- somehow Ferrari managed to make a mess and attract bad luck for the beginning of the season while having a quite OK car and a good PU. Probably the best Ferrari car/PU combo for a number of years.
Looking at the Turn- around with Lewis yesterday would at least give some hope that any streak of bad luck and misfortune is bound to end finally. Hopefully the Reds will make this turnaround soon- for the sake of an interesting season. From his mentality (and raw pace if the car suits him) a Vettel in Championship mode in an at least half- competitive car is probably the only one on the grid to properly challenge Lewis on a sustained basis. Unfortunately Nico is not. He has good races now and then but once the pressure builds he tends to f**k up.

here is the answer to the million dollar question as to what happened to ferrari in qualifying.
Marchionne:
"I would not make a huge issue out of the fact that yesterday we had this out of body experience with operating the car in a temperature window that was not there:
I just had an interesting conversation about this with Toto: Mercedes had a similar experience in Singapore last year.
"There is an operating window of temperature for the tyres which is the result of increased temp on track and we were not ready.
"It caught us off guard and both drivers felt it and there was not much that can be done."
Temperatures today are scheduled to be cooler which is the window Ferrari set their car up for... we shall see what happens

[mistrx]

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[fenix4life]

Boajaaaa

[Sniffit]

Lol @ Mercedes

[RZS10]

one way to defend the lead in WDC

[Tauri_J]

what a joke

[Juzh]

[oT v1]

Max to win on RBR debut???

Gutted to for HAM

[Miguel]

Ahahahahahaha! Drama! Popcorn!
I think Rosberg was on the dirty side, but Hamilton should have backed off.