[ 2020 ] AMG Mercedes F1 Team - Mercedes

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Capharol wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 07:50
dans79 wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 20:57
Wass85 wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 19:26


I think Ferrari are well within their rights to oppose that when he has shares in their biggest rival.

He owned shares at Williams when he moved to Mercedes, and no one had a problem with that............
wrong he had to sell them shortly after he bought them, Toto isn't going anywhere this is just an investment and he can because there is no conflict of interest.

AM isn't a racing team by themselves like Williams is, and AM cars has AMG engine in them
Toto sold his Williams shares in 2016, 3 years after joining Mercedes.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35766996

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GPR-A wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 08:26
Capharol wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 07:50
dans79 wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 20:57



He owned shares at Williams when he moved to Mercedes, and no one had a problem with that............
wrong he had to sell them shortly after he bought them, Toto isn't going anywhere this is just an investment and he can because there is no conflict of interest.

AM isn't a racing team by themselves like Williams is, and AM cars has AMG engine in them
Toto sold his Williams shares in 2016, 3 years after joining Mercedes.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/35766996
your link is from 2016
it says remaining shares (5%) so he already sold some of his shares

this one is from 2014
https://www.eurosport.com/formula-1/tot ... tory.shtml
"This was important to Daimler for conflict of interest reasons and for compliance reasons.

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The difference in the shares the totonator bought this time is. He has this time invested in a company that competes in the same segment the company he represents competes in.

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i would not be completely amazed if Toto moves on, personally. Why did Lewis say his contract negotiations depend at least partly on whether Toto is staying? Has he picked up a vibe? IMO Toto might have got that been-there-done-that feeling about F1 now and is getting a bit restless and ready for something new

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izzy wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 12:12
i would not be completely amazed if Toto moves on, personally. Why did Lewis say his contract negotiations depend at least partly on whether Toto is staying? Has he picked up a vibe? IMO Toto might have got that been-there-done-that feeling about F1 now and is getting a bit restless and ready for something new
because, and this counts for every team and driver, you need consistency within a team.
same engineers, same teammanager, etc. if this fluctuates to much, like at Ferrari (almost every 2 year a new teammanager) your team gonna be inconsistente and i think Lewis likes a steady environment around him, if 1 chunk falls away (like Toto leaving) he might not feeling as comfortable anymore as he used to.

wasn't this the same with Schumacher? (forgot who of the team left first)

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Capharol wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 16:35
because, and this counts for every team and driver, you need consistency within a team.
same engineers, same teammanager, etc. if this fluctuates to much, like at Ferrari (almost every 2 year a new teammanager) your team gonna be inconsistente and i think Lewis likes a steady environment around him, if 1 chunk falls away (like Toto leaving) he might not feeling as comfortable anymore as he used to.

wasn't this the same with Schumacher? (forgot who of the team left first)
Hamilton clearly feels Toto is important, and who wouldn't, but it's rather striking that he mentioned it as an issue for his own contract. It does raise the question of whether Lewis has picked up some kind of signal.

With Schumacher, di Montezemolo undermined him and Todt by recruiting Kimi, perhaps there's a parallel with Kallenius and the Ferrari investigation...

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kimetic wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 17:17
r, di Montezemolo undermined him and Todt by recruiting Kimi, perhaps there's a parallel with Kallenius and the Ferrari investigation...
Sorry Kallenius? Who is that? :shock:
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aleks_ader wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 19:45
kimetic wrote:
20 Apr 2020, 17:17
r, di Montezemolo undermined him and Todt by recruiting Kimi, perhaps there's a parallel with Kallenius and the Ferrari investigation...
Sorry Kallenius? Who is that? :shock:
That's Ola Kallenius, Chairman of Daimler, who pulled Mercedes out of the group of teams demanding clarity from the FIA over the Ferrari sanction, over Wolff's head. He took over from Dieter Zetsche.

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I love how open Mercedes AMG have become ...

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Another really good video from Mercedes. It's remarkable to have this kind of transparency about the difficulties. Maybe they're simply being transparent because all teams go through the same issues. But I don't think we've ever gotten this before.

I'd like more sir.

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TAG wrote:
29 Apr 2020, 15:24
Another really good video from Mercedes. It's remarkable to have this kind of transparency about the difficulties. Maybe they're simply being transparent because all teams go through the same issues. But I don't think we've ever gotten this before.

I'd like more sir.

https://youtu.be/s23m3HzjXSU
Interesting info about the simulations they run before each race dropped in to the talk. Talking of a huge numbers of simulations which I guess means they're running a Monte Carlo simulation based on best guess starting points. And then running them during the weekend to fine tune the scenario as tyre and track data, relative competitor performance data, etc. become available.
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