2021 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, Aug 27 - 29

[RZS10]

What a humiliation for Lewis- a Williams in front of him.

Verstappen once again proofs to be the best in changeable conditions/ rain.

Max is only 3 tenths ahead of Russell in a Williams. Not so good really when you consider it's normally 2 seconds in the dry.

Russell made everyone else on the grid look very silly there, including Max.

Utter bullshit. Every serious fan knows that Russell is a fantastic driver, and they gambled full on a rain set-up. That is why he beat Hamilton (who can’t afford that gamble) and even came close to Max. In the dry tomorrow (which it likely won’t be) he will get eaten alive.

It's always kinda silly when people just leave out all circumstances and possible reasons for the difference in performance, isn't it?

Merc (probably both) are on a rather low-ish DF setup, at least for those conditions (as said by Lewis in the post quali interview), dunno about Max who also had the potential benefit of being a bit further back on track (RIC getting 4th was indicative for track improvement) - additionally neither WDC contender would risk more than necessary whilst Russell in the (probably wet set up having) Williams could risk it all, which is what Norris tried but overdid.

This obviously doesn't take anything away from his performance, which was one of those great drivers we don't see too often.

However any blanket statements about any driver being good/bad/better/worse are misplaced imho and the race tomorrow will show which set up choice was right or whether anyone really went for a 'full wet' one.

[Sieper]

Max is only 3 tenths ahead of Russell in a Williams. Not so good really when you consider it's normally 2 seconds in the dry.

Russell made everyone else on the grid look very silly there, including Max.

Utter bullshit. Every serious fan knows that Russell is a fantastic driver, and they gambled full on a rain set-up. That is why he beat Hamilton (who can’t afford that gamble) and even came close to Max. In the dry tomorrow (which it likely won’t be) he will get eaten alive.

It's always kinda silly when people just leave out all circumstances and possible reasons for the difference in performance, isn't it?

Merc (probably both) are on a rather low-ish DF setup, at least for those conditions (as said by Lewis in the post quali interview), dunno about Max who also had the potential benefit of being a bit further back on track (RIC getting 4th was indicative for track improvement) - additionally neither WDC contender would risk more than necessary whilst Russell in the (probably wet set up having) Williams could risk it all, which is what Norris tried but overdid.

This obviously doesn't take anything away from his performance, which was one of those great drivers we don't see too often.

However any blanket statements about any driver being good/bad/better/worse are misplaced imho and the race tomorrow will show which set up choice was right or whether anyone really went for a 'full wet' one.

This. 100% agree.

In fact, I fear the mega tow Lewis will get from Russell (with his big wing) and Max as well, I expect him in P1 after turn 5. Russell will go out of the way for Hamilton.

Ofcourse, a start is a start, anything can happen, but this is a real scenario now.

[Ryar]

Poles in wet used to come effortlessly when the car was miles ahead in the past years. Suddenly that large advantage is gone and the guy is getting beaten by a Williams!

[mkay]

Poles in wet used to come effortlessly when the car was miles ahead in the past years. Suddenly that large advantage is gone and the guy is getting beaten by a Williams!

Williams clearly gambled on a full wet setup. Hamilton out qualified his teammate by 2.5s, a higher margin than Max on Perez. Ultimately Merc just didn’t gamble on the right setup.

[Just_a_fan]

Poles in wet used to come effortlessly when the car was miles ahead in the past years. Suddenly that large advantage is gone and the guy is getting beaten by a Williams!

Same can be said for a guy that didn't do too well in previous years is suddenly vying for the title because, surprise surprise, the car is top drawer.

Funny that, eh.

See anything you haters want to use is equally applicable to your boy too. So how about everyone stops with the silliness and just enjoys watching drivers battling with conditions that can cause accidents on the public roads at much lower speeds?

[GOAT]

Max is … ahead of Russell in a Williams.

Correct, Max is ahead of everybody.

The true story is Hamilton behind a Williams.

[Sieper]

We don’t really know the parameters in which the performance was set. Both Max and Lewis performed, as did Russell, on a very high level.

I think it speaks for Max he has been building up to the fastest lap at last, also here that coincides with the “best” conditions. I think the second lap was under comparable circumstanes. Perez did not do a cool down lap, they spread the tactic at RedBull. Who did the very best, hard to say. But I am glad with Max his performance, Lewis was rightfully ok with it too and Russell was great as well.

[Ryar]

Max is … ahead of Russell in a Williams.

Correct, Max is ahead of everybody.

The true story is Hamilton behind a Williams.

[Just_a_fan]

With regards to setup: if the race is drier - or at least if it gets dry enough for a dry line to form and slicks to be useable, then we'll see who had what set up preferences. In such conditions, the Williams will go backwards very quickly compared to those on more dry downforce levels. Likewise between the Red Bull and Merc.

What will be important is getting out in front if it's wet in the race - having a view clear of spray from a car/cars in front makes a huge difference. Whoever is in front will likely pull away simply because of that.

[renault rs26]

Max is only 3 tenths ahead of Russell in a Williams. Not so good really when you consider it's normally 2 seconds in the dry.

Russell made everyone else on the grid look very silly there, including Max.

Utter bullshit. Every serious fan knows that Russell is a fantastic driver, and they gambled full on a rain set-up. That is why he beat Hamilton (who can’t afford that gamble) and even came close to Max. In the dry tomorrow (which it likely won’t be) he will get eaten alive.

It's always kinda silly when people just leave out all circumstances and possible reasons for the difference in performance, isn't it?

Merc (probably both) are on a rather low-ish DF setup, at least for those conditions (as said by Lewis in the post quali interview), dunno about Max who also had the potential benefit of being a bit further back on track (RIC getting 4th was indicative for track improvement) - additionally neither WDC contender would risk more than necessary whilst Russell in the (probably wet set up having) Williams could risk it all, which is what Norris tried but overdid.

This obviously doesn't take anything away from his performance, which was one of those great drivers we don't see too often.

However any blanket statements about any driver being good/bad/better/worse are misplaced imho and the race tomorrow will show which set up choice was right or whether anyone really went for a 'full wet' one.

You're mostly right, but even with this setup Mercedes is faster car than Williams. I guess Russell in this Mercedes would beat Hamilton in this Williams with bigger margin.

[GOAT]

So how about everyone stops with the silliness and just enjoys watching drivers battling with conditions that can cause accidents on the public roads at much lower speeds?

“Of course”, now everybody just have to stop and enjoy..

Everybody is already enjoying that finally we can witness that Hamilton is just a mediocre driver who had a starship enterprise under him, past couple of years.

Nothing wrong with that, btw- he took full advantage, as he should have.

[Zynerji]

Great qualifying!

Sad for Norris, but chuffed for Russell!

Let's see what lap1 shenanigans come to fruition!

[Ryar]

No matter what the setups are, Mercedes behind Williams is an utter shame for it's drivers. Anyone trying to use that is clutching at straw. Regardless of what happens tomorrow, it's not going to change that fact.

[Sieper]

So how about everyone stops with the silliness and just enjoys watching drivers battling with conditions that can cause accidents on the public roads at much lower speeds?

“Of course”, now everybody just have to stop and enjoy..

Everybody is already enjoying that finally we can witness that Hamilton is just a mediocre driver who had a starship enterprise under him, past couple of years.

Nothing wrong with that, btw- he took full advantage, as he should have.

That is BS as well and you know it. I hope.

[Zynerji]

So how about everyone stops with the silliness and just enjoys watching drivers battling with conditions that can cause accidents on the public roads at much lower speeds?

“Of course”, now everybody just have to stop and enjoy..

Everybody is already enjoying that finally we can witness that Hamilton is just a mediocre driver who had a starship enterprise under him, past couple of years.

Nothing wrong with that, btw- he took full advantage, as he should have.

I'm not a Lewis fan, but he IS the GOAT.

Arguments against that can only be based upon emotion at this point, as the logic and data are pretty clear.