2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[LM10]

This "same for everyone sentence" is nonsense.
Let's think that we built a long straights and a rule say that who will reach highest speed he will take the pole. This rule is same for everyone but it gives pole directly Ferrari, isn't it?

If that regulation is published with a minimum of 12 months in advance, like all regulations do, then who is to say Honda wouldn't build a PU that can win that drag race? OR Mercedes OR even Renault? Given a set of regulations and a good amount of advance time, whoever does the best job, deserves to win. In that respect, "the rules are same for everyone".

Why had there been reports (and also posts on this forum) suggesting the regulation changes would most probably put Mercedes in a favourable position due to their concept, long before the season even started?

Imagine a tennis player who's best on clay courts and another one who, on the other hand, is best on grass courts and if there are regulation changes saying that most of the games will be played on grass courts then only ignorants will tell that the changes are the same for everyone and put everyone in the same position.

[GPR-A]

Why had there been reports (and also posts on this forum) suggesting the regulation changes would most probably put Mercedes in a favourable position due to their concept, long before the season even started?

Can you please post a link to one such post?

[LM10]

Why had there been reports (and also posts on this forum) suggesting the regulation changes would most probably put Mercedes in a favourable position due to their concept, long before the season even started?

Can you please post a link to one such post?

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I even told dans79 that he was being very optimistic. Turns out, he actually wasn't!

[gokarter]

This issue with redbull is down to shorter wheelbase. longer wheelbase is favourable for vehicle stability, and this new tyres dont help with the shorter wheelbase configuration.

[nzjrs]

This issue with redbull is down to shorter wheelbase. longer wheelbase is favourable for vehicle stability, and this new tyres dont help with the shorter wheelbase configuration.

The issue is that this is not a silver bullet formula "it's just the wheelbase", but rather the cumulative effect of intricate cars interacting with intricate regulations multiplied by a development race multiplied by tire and aero regulation changes. We are arguing over less than 0.5%...

[Marti_EF3]

Seems that they've screwed the setup again?? The FP3 times were horrible

[Jaisonas]

Seems that they've screwed the setup again?? The FP3 times were horrible

Something like that, Verstappen complained on the radio that he had no grip at all and was sliding all over the place.

[Bill]

I think redbull should just throw a towel and focus exclusively on 2021 the simple front wing doesn't work with the high rake car, then they are those silly tires.it's unlikely they will win next year championship. I still think changing the front wing or constant change has been a disaster for f1 we had a proper championship last year

[IvailoStefanovBG]

I think redbull should just throw a towel and focus exclusively on 2021 the simple front wing doesn't work with the high rake car, then they are those silly tires.it's unlikely they will win next year championship. I still think changing the front wing or constant change has been a disaster for f1 we had a proper championship last year

Completely agree with you.

[Jaisonas]

This looks horrible

[gandharva]

I think redbull should just throw a towel and focus exclusively on 2021 the simple front wing doesn't work with the high rake car, then they are those silly tires.it's unlikely they will win next year championship. I still think changing the front wing or constant change has been a disaster for f1 we had a proper championship last year

Completely agree with you.

The '21 rules are not even final. How will you work for this?

They need to get their high-rake philosophy working again. Fixing it this year will help this year and next years. If they start building a low rake car they are automatically 5 years behind in development.

[IvailoStefanovBG]

I think redbull should just throw a towel and focus exclusively on 2021 the simple front wing doesn't work with the high rake car, then they are those silly tires.it's unlikely they will win next year championship. I still think changing the front wing or constant change has been a disaster for f1 we had a proper championship last year

Completely agree with you.

The '21 rules are not even final. How will you work for this?

They need to get their high-rake philosophy working again. Fixing it this year will help this year and next years. If they start building a low rake car they are automatically 5 years behind in development.

Completely agree with you also. That's why these rules are a disaster. Hope its possible to make high rake philosophy to work...

[Marti_EF3]

At least they were doing setup changes after FP3, so I hope more time can be found. But we will be far from Merc and Ferrari, at least at qualifying. Race pace seems more equal.

What is unacceptable is that Mclaren, Renault and even the STR with the old spec PU are that close to the RB15. We will see soon, Gasly was on the same tenth than Max, so that in theory means that Max have more time to unleash...

[IvailoStefanovBG]

At least they were doing setup changes after FP3, so I hope more time can be found. But we will be far from Merc and Ferrari, at least at qualifying. Race pace seems more equal.

What is unacceptable is that Mclaren, Renault and even the STR with the old spec PU are that close to the RB15. We will see soon, Gasly was on the same tenth than Max, so that in theory means that Max have more time to unleash...

The difference is big. If nothing changes in following races its highly possible to see Max and Lewis in Mercedes next year. And you can imagine what Gasly, Albon or Kvyat can do...

[Marti_EF3]

At least they were doing setup changes after FP3, so I hope more time can be found. But we will be far from Merc and Ferrari, at least at qualifying. Race pace seems more equal.

What is unacceptable is that Mclaren, Renault and even the STR with the old spec PU are that close to the RB15. We will see soon, Gasly was on the same tenth than Max, so that in theory means that Max have more time to unleash...

The difference is big. If nothing changes in following races its highly possible to see Max and Lewis in Mercedes next year. And you can imagine what Gasly, Albon or Kvyat can do...

I don't think so, they will get things sorted. Question is how much time it will take. And the other factor are that sh** tires. But I don't think Max will leave.