2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Sphere3758
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Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 17:46
Sphere3758 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 16:57
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 16:23

There is every reason to race Max tomorrow based on the pace they've shown. Ferrari don't need to "secure" P2 in the WCC, it's irrelevant. Instead they need to do anything and everything to win races and start eating away at that air of invincibility that RB and Verstappen have. So if they are not going to use an opportunity like this when their car looks legitimately competitive, might as well go home to Maranello and eat pizza.
And this is how it will be. They have to attack Max as much as possible.

I don’t expect the McLaren to have the pace to match over the entire race, so there is no real danger apart from Redbull. They have to go all in.


Max is not invincible. He has had a big car advantage for a very long time which makes people forget before summer 2022. Charles and Carlos need to find a way to work together to take him down.
You either have the pace or you don't.

Right now Ferrari is nowhere near RB in terms of race pace, also considering that Perez finished P2 in the previous races with minimal effort.
Qualifying is a big if. It seems the overall potential is there but both Leclerc and Sainz are struggling to make a perfect lap which probably means the car is quite tricky to drive in quali trim, and therefore not as good as the RB20.
The question is does someone else , apart from Redbull, have the pace on you ? If not, go all out attack on Redbull strategically and hope to induce an error.

They are expected to be much closer in race pace here than the first 2 races. If it is a tenth or two, am sure Ferrari can make the Redbull strategy team wake up and take notice

Cs98
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Chuckjr wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 17:06
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 16:30
Rikhart wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 14:09
I wonder if Ferrari have begun to doubt their signing of Hamilton.
From a performance perspective, maybe. From a marketing perspective, no.
wut. #-o No. It will be a marketing embarrassment, actually. I’ve said this since they signed him: It was a mistake. They will be paying that guy near double what they pay Charles and he’s simply not worth it. There’s never been any magic with Ham. He’s just been a power unit privileged driver most of his career. Take away the 8 year Merc advantage and he’s just another driver.

I also have no idea why most everyone was foaming at the mouth before quali thinking Ferrari was going to suddenly challenge Red Bull? Come on guys. Red Bull never turn on their power unit or show some of their actual cards till Q3. It’s just another technique they use to avoid FIA intervention. This has been obvious for a while now. Ferrari won’t truly challenge Red Bull till maybe 2026, but I’ve zero confidence they will now that they have tied themselves to a guy who really and truly is in decline while punting the guy that may be in a career resurgence. Ain’t no resurgence gonna come from a 40+ year old. Good luck marketing a decline.
No they won't. The majority of what was communicated as the "contract value" is not going to be paid to Hamilton. It's Elkann putting his money in some DEI investment fund. Wouldn't expect great returns from that :lol: , but it's not being paid to Ham.

Xyz22
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Sphere3758 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:00
Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 17:46
Sphere3758 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 16:57


And this is how it will be. They have to attack Max as much as possible.

I don’t expect the McLaren to have the pace to match over the entire race, so there is no real danger apart from Redbull. They have to go all in.


Max is not invincible. He has had a big car advantage for a very long time which makes people forget before summer 2022. Charles and Carlos need to find a way to work together to take him down.
You either have the pace or you don't.

Right now Ferrari is nowhere near RB in terms of race pace, also considering that Perez finished P2 in the previous races with minimal effort.
Qualifying is a big if. It seems the overall potential is there but both Leclerc and Sainz are struggling to make a perfect lap which probably means the car is quite tricky to drive in quali trim, and therefore not as good as the RB20.
The question is does someone else , apart from Redbull, have the pace on you ? If not, go all out attack on Redbull strategically and hope to induce an error.

They are expected to be much closer in race pace here than the first 2 races. If it is a tenth or two, am sure Ferrari can make the Redbull strategy team wake up and take notice
What does it mean? If you are 0.5s slower, there is nothing you can do.

Cs98
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Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 17:46
Sphere3758 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 16:57
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 16:23

There is every reason to race Max tomorrow based on the pace they've shown. Ferrari don't need to "secure" P2 in the WCC, it's irrelevant. Instead they need to do anything and everything to win races and start eating away at that air of invincibility that RB and Verstappen have. So if they are not going to use an opportunity like this when their car looks legitimately competitive, might as well go home to Maranello and eat pizza.
And this is how it will be. They have to attack Max as much as possible.

I don’t expect the McLaren to have the pace to match over the entire race, so there is no real danger apart from Redbull. They have to go all in.


Max is not invincible. He has had a big car advantage for a very long time which makes people forget before summer 2022. Charles and Carlos need to find a way to work together to take him down.
You either have the pace or you don't.

Right now Ferrari is nowhere near RB in terms of race pace, also considering that Perez finished P2 in the previous races with minimal effort.
Qualifying is a big if. It seems the overall potential is there but both Leclerc and Sainz are struggling to make a perfect lap which probably means the car is quite tricky to drive in quali trim, and therefore not as good as the RB20.
Right, and on this track everything points towards Ferrari having the pace to compete.

CouncilorIrissa
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Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:04
Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 17:46
Sphere3758 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 16:57


And this is how it will be. They have to attack Max as much as possible.

I don’t expect the McLaren to have the pace to match over the entire race, so there is no real danger apart from Redbull. They have to go all in.


Max is not invincible. He has had a big car advantage for a very long time which makes people forget before summer 2022. Charles and Carlos need to find a way to work together to take him down.
You either have the pace or you don't.

Right now Ferrari is nowhere near RB in terms of race pace, also considering that Perez finished P2 in the previous races with minimal effort.
Qualifying is a big if. It seems the overall potential is there but both Leclerc and Sainz are struggling to make a perfect lap which probably means the car is quite tricky to drive in quali trim, and therefore not as good as the RB20.
Right, and on this track everything points towards Ferrari having the pace to compete.
Max will take off at a rate of .5 seconds/lap on high fuel.

Cs98
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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:05
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:04
Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 17:46


You either have the pace or you don't.

Right now Ferrari is nowhere near RB in terms of race pace, also considering that Perez finished P2 in the previous races with minimal effort.
Qualifying is a big if. It seems the overall potential is there but both Leclerc and Sainz are struggling to make a perfect lap which probably means the car is quite tricky to drive in quali trim, and therefore not as good as the RB20.
Right, and on this track everything points towards Ferrari having the pace to compete.
Max will take off at a rate of .5 seconds/lap on high fuel.
We will have the answer soon enough. Leclerc looked rapid in FP, let's hope he gets to use that pace.

Xyz22
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Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:06
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:05
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:04

Right, and on this track everything points towards Ferrari having the pace to compete.
Max will take off at a rate of .5 seconds/lap on high fuel.
We will have the answer soon enough. Leclerc looked rapid in FP, let's hope he gets to use that pace.
Leclerc looked rapid in quali trim as well during FP2, and he was awful today in FP3 and quali so yeah...

CouncilorIrissa
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Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:06
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:05
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:04

Right, and on this track everything points towards Ferrari having the pace to compete.
Max will take off at a rate of .5 seconds/lap on high fuel.
We will have the answer soon enough. Leclerc looked rapid in FP, let's hope he gets to use that pace.
RB have overhauled their setup since then and made large gains, whereas Ferrari went backwards. The FP data is worth nada at this point.

Sphere3758
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Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:02
Sphere3758 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:00
Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 17:46


You either have the pace or you don't.

Right now Ferrari is nowhere near RB in terms of race pace, also considering that Perez finished P2 in the previous races with minimal effort.
Qualifying is a big if. It seems the overall potential is there but both Leclerc and Sainz are struggling to make a perfect lap which probably means the car is quite tricky to drive in quali trim, and therefore not as good as the RB20.
The question is does someone else , apart from Redbull, have the pace on you ? If not, go all out attack on Redbull strategically and hope to induce an error.

They are expected to be much closer in race pace here than the first 2 races. If it is a tenth or two, am sure Ferrari can make the Redbull strategy team wake up and take notice
What does it mean? If you are 0.5s slower, there is nothing you can do.
Unless Redbull has made a big jump since FP2 or Ferrari has messed up big since, they are almost certainly very close on race pace at this track, atleast with Leclerc.

The race will be decided by who controls graining the best and Ferrari seemed to do a very good job in FP2

Cs98
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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:08
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:06
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:05


Max will take off at a rate of .5 seconds/lap on high fuel.
We will have the answer soon enough. Leclerc looked rapid in FP, let's hope he gets to use that pace.
RB have overhauled their setup since then and made large gains, whereas Ferrari went backwards. The FP data is worth nada at this point.
RB ran a race simulation in FP3 with their new wing and Max was not faster than what Leclerc did the day before, in fact he had quite significant deg already after 5 laps.

Xyz22
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Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:10
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:08
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:06

We will have the answer soon enough. Leclerc looked rapid in FP, let's hope he gets to use that pace.
RB have overhauled their setup since then and made large gains, whereas Ferrari went backwards. The FP data is worth nada at this point.
RB ran a race simulation in FP3 with their new wing and Max was not faster than what Leclerc did the day before, in fact he had quite significant deg already after 5 laps.
But we don't know if Ferrari will be as quick as it was in FP2 considering the clown show of today, at least with Leclerc.

Rikhart
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Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 16:30
Rikhart wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 14:09
I wonder if Ferrari have begun to doubt their signing of Hamilton.
From a performance perspective, maybe. From a marketing perspective, no.
In that case I as a Ferrari fan am starting to get worried myself. Sacrificing a driver seat for marketing is not what a team pursuing top performance should do.

Cs98
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Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:08
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:06
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:05


Max will take off at a rate of .5 seconds/lap on high fuel.
We will have the answer soon enough. Leclerc looked rapid in FP, let's hope he gets to use that pace.
Leclerc looked rapid in quali trim as well during FP2, and he was awful today in FP3 and quali so yeah...
He topped FP3... And Sainz demonstrated what the car was capable of in quali. Fastest in S1 and S3, without the mistake possibly on pole.

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Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:14
Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:08
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:06

We will have the answer soon enough. Leclerc looked rapid in FP, let's hope he gets to use that pace.
Leclerc looked rapid in quali trim as well during FP2, and he was awful today in FP3 and quali so yeah...
He topped FP3... And Sainz demonstrated what the car was capable of in quali. Fastest in S1 and S3, without the mistake possibly on pole.
He said he was struggling massively in FP3 already compared to yesterday.

Cs98
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Xyz22 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:12
Cs98 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:10
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 18:08


RB have overhauled their setup since then and made large gains, whereas Ferrari went backwards. The FP data is worth nada at this point.
RB ran a race simulation in FP3 with their new wing and Max was not faster than what Leclerc did the day before, in fact he had quite significant deg already after 5 laps.
But we don't know if Ferrari will be as quick as it was in FP2 considering the clown show of today, at least with Leclerc.
Race pace is usually less volatile than quali, which can be heavily impacted by variations in tyre prep etc. I would expect Leclerc to be just as fast, probably faster actually because he didn't look to be running the engine fully in FP2.