2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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Marti_EF3 wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 14:12
At least they were doing setup changes after FP3, so I hope more time can be found. But we will be far from Merc and Ferrari, at least at qualifying. Race pace seems more equal.

What is unacceptable is that Mclaren, Renault and even the STR with the old spec PU are that close to the RB15. We will see soon, Gasly was on the same tenth than Max, so that in theory means that Max have more time to unleash... [-o<
Excelent explanation of actual situation with the tires
https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/114 ... 67648?s=19

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maguetox wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 14:43
Marti_EF3 wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 14:12
At least they were doing setup changes after FP3, so I hope more time can be found. But we will be far from Merc and Ferrari, at least at qualifying. Race pace seems more equal.

What is unacceptable is that Mclaren, Renault and even the STR with the old spec PU are that close to the RB15. We will see soon, Gasly was on the same tenth than Max, so that in theory means that Max have more time to unleash... [-o<
Excelent explanation of actual situation with the tires
https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/114 ... 67648?s=19
I hate these tires :x

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maguetox wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 14:43
Marti_EF3 wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 14:12
At least they were doing setup changes after FP3, so I hope more time can be found. But we will be far from Merc and Ferrari, at least at qualifying. Race pace seems more equal.

What is unacceptable is that Mclaren, Renault and even the STR with the old spec PU are that close to the RB15. We will see soon, Gasly was on the same tenth than Max, so that in theory means that Max have more time to unleash... [-o<
Excelent explanation of actual situation with the tires
https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/114 ... 67648?s=19
Interesting, but sad. Abiteboul is right in stating that the tires are ruining the game. On the other hand, Mercedes shows that it is possible to get the tires working in their window. How they do it still the big question. AMuS doesn't come further than usual suspect high downforce and less toe-in.

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Well, it's clear that the tires and the setup is horrible. Race pace is a lot better, but I'm starting to get a lot angry about that absolutely sh** tires. Let's see what tomorrow is... #-o

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It is what it is. Seems Red Bull has the same problems it had in Bahrain. Obviously they'll have a much better car tomorrow than today. Tires can easily mean half a second of pace.
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Yes, it seems so. Race pace on Bahréin was much better. But that lack of speed on quali is a bit worring. Hope they understand better the upgrades, because now seems clear that the main problem is chasis related. Albon was about to beat gasly with an old spec 2 PU on Q2, maybe this is one of that "off years" Newey have sometimes... At least at the start of the season...

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i think they know all they need and are not upgrading car significantly, only little details. Maybe it means one thing only. They are already designing a new car, new chassis. Given the engine also need more improvement, this is the year to change all the concept, as McLaren did last year.

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Just cant be happy with second row knowing the cars performance. Disappointing pace for the most expensive RB ever built.

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Pany wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 16:27
i think they know all they need and are not upgrading car significantly, only little details. Maybe it means one thing only. They are already designing a new car, new chassis. Given the engine also need more improvement, this is the year to change all the concept, as McLaren did last year.
Well, if they are doing it, it will be a disapointing and boring season. Only if they bring a B-spec car middle to late season will be interesting. If not, 2020 preseason can come soon enough #-o

At least race pace is good to be confortable in 3rd best team until they do something next year with full PU and chasis integration

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Maybe I am wrong, but I don't explain other ways. Unles mclaren Is getting really better than RB and ferrari

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I am wondering why Max is staying so calm while knowing the chassis doesnt seem to be improving relatively to Merc. Would this be down to a clause in his contract?

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seense wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 16:48
I am wondering why Max is staying so calm while knowing the chassis doesnt seem to be improving relatively to Merc. Would this be down to a clause in his contract?
What do you want Max to do exactly?
Max is being smart. EVERYONE knows there's work to be done. Sitting there bitching and moaning isn't going to do anything. Perhaps Max HAS matured and is being a leader.

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seense wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 16:48
I am wondering why Max is staying so calm while knowing the chassis doesnt seem to be improving relatively to Merc. Would this be down to a clause in his contract?
He knows better than anyone what's going on there. Maybe they know what is coming, maybe it's contract related. But knowing Max, I think if something is wrong they will claim it. Same way as Alonso did in the past. So only time will tell what's going on with RBR. But yes, it's a bit strange that even midfield teams are bringing big update packs, and they only minimal updates there and here... It's not what we used to see last years... So, it's possible that they are working on a B-chasis for middle season along with the full spec 4 upgrade, or focusing on next year car and only bringing parts as a test for next year... Right now is an unknown #-o

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shingles wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 16:51
seense wrote:
22 Jun 2019, 16:48
I am wondering why Max is staying so calm while knowing the chassis doesnt seem to be improving relatively to Merc. Would this be down to a clause in his contract?
What do you want Max to do exactly?
Max is being smart. EVERYONE knows there's work to be done. Sitting there bitching and moaning isn't going to do anything. Perhaps Max HAS matured and is being a leader.
Dont want him to do anything specific or bitching. Just an observation that he stays super calm and I am just curious whats going on behind the scenes. :)

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car does not react well to these new 2019 tyres, b spec car would b e ideal , with a bigger wheelbase but i dont think it will happen. albon almost beat redbull in a TR. not good signs.