2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Jaisonas]

This is not only an engine issue. as we can see all other mercedes team struggling at the back even to make q3. mercedes just got this tyres to work better and have a better understanding. if i was marko i will go ahead with a b spec and try a longer wheelbase just to see if it make a difference

I dont think this is an engine issue at all tbh. The car was pretty fast on the straights and the usual honda lag in low rpms seems to be gone with this engine.

[baybars]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y6onJX ... r_embedded

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y6onJX ... r_embedded

bad mistake from max in the chicane

[Jaisonas]

Good pace from the mclaren and quite a good top speed. The redbull is just --- on corner exits, the only thing that kinda saved them in the straight was honda's top speed

[McMika98]

The redbull is just --- on corner exits, the only thing that kinda saved them in the straight was honda's top speed

Are you watching the same video? On every straight, the low gear acceleration phase, both cars were neck and neck and then the macca catches up at a rate of knots. Max made a mistake on one of the corners when was up by 3 tenths and lost it all. Bit surprised how quick the Mclaren was on the final sector with the slow corner.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/06/22/ver ... g-mclaren/

Finally what i have been saying for the last two weeks and getting slated as being a troll when i am just gutted that Renault has upped their game more than Honda. Didn't take long. Feel free to call Max a troll as well.

[HPD]

Finally what i have been saying for the last two weeks and getting slated as being a troll when i am just gutted that Renault has upped their game more than Honda. Didn't take long. Feel free to call Max a troll as well.

Sir, nobody is underestimating Renault, they are doing a great job and deserve to be congratulated.
They have a very strong Q mode. But formula 1 is not just about engines, if you're fast as Mclaren shows now, it's because they have a good package, not just the engine. It is what other users try to tell you and you do not listen to them.
Stop the drama.

[GerryTT]

The redbull is just --- on corner exits, the only thing that kinda saved them in the straight was honda's top speed

Are you watching the same video? On every straight, the low gear acceleration phase, both cars were neck and neck and then the macca catches up at a rate of knots. Max made a mistake on one of the corners when was up by 3 tenths and lost it all. Bit surprised how quick the Mclaren was on the final sector with the slow corner.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/06/22/ver ... g-mclaren/

Finally what i have been saying for the last two weeks and getting slated as being a troll when i am just gutted that Renault has upped their game more than Honda. Didn't take long. Feel free to call Max a troll as well.

Its not that people disagree with you but you keep saying the same thing in every post you make.

[Jaisonas]

The redbull is just --- on corner exits, the only thing that kinda saved them in the straight was honda's top speed

Are you watching the same video? On every straight, the low gear acceleration phase, both cars were neck and neck and then the macca catches up at a rate of knots. Max made a mistake on one of the corners when was up by 3 tenths and lost it all. Bit surprised how quick the Mclaren was on the final sector with the slow corner.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/06/22/ver ... g-mclaren/

Finally what i have been saying for the last two weeks and getting slated as being a troll when i am just gutted that Renault has upped their game more than Honda. Didn't take long. Feel free to call Max a troll as well.

It makes no difference if you even put a ferrari on the back of that redbull. The fact is that they run much more downforce on the rear trying to stabilise the car.

[HPD]

Max: "But a nasty season, why? In recent years, Mercedes has generally also been dominant. I always try to get the best out of it myself. And that works well so far. I'm happy with that, but we have to try to find things about the car and of course also about the engine. We have to look ahead. To Ferrari, and also to Mercedes. We have to go there. Our car is unfortunately not as good as last year, but I say that all the time. "
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[McMika98]

There you go that is where you are wrong as a huge Albon and Toro Rosso fan, i have been analysing every sector data from the live feed of every practice sessions so far. Since Canada where Renault were confident of engine and launched their quali modes, and also in Bahrain, there was at least few tenths gained by Renault cars on the low drag Honda powered cars ie Toro rosso.
Redbull were comfortably at least half a second ahead of Mclaren but engine modes from Renault has reduced it to few tenths.

[Marti_EF3]

Don't feed the delusional boy, he's like a scratched CD. Not able to see the whole picture of what a package means, and still think that top speed on straight means only PU power

[SmallSoldier]

Finally what i have been saying for the last two weeks and getting slated as being a troll when i am just gutted that Renault has upped their game more than Honda. Didn't take long. Feel free to call Max a troll as well.

Sir, nobody is underestimating Renault, they are doing a great job and deserve to be congratulated.
They have a very strong Q mode. But formula 1 is not just about engines, if you're fast as Mclaren shows now, it's because they have a good package, not just the engine. It is what other users try to tell you and you do not listen to them.
Stop the drama.

No, that’s not what users have been telling him... RBR has a great car (as showed in Monaco)... The argument was always in regards to which engine was more powerful and having that argument would label anyone disputing it in favor of Renault “a Troll”... The edge on power from Renault was showed in Canada when Norris and Max had a drag race, where the acceleration of both showed that even when Max had a better exit and was clearly in front of Norris, the latter managed to not only get side by side with him, but get in front based on power and arguably before drag coefficients would have had a significant effect.

Max admitting in an interview today that the Renault is more powerful, will hopefully settle the debate.

Red Bull continuous to be the better overall
package and still has an advantage over the midfield... It is exciting to watch the Mclaren’s and Renault’s try to bridge the gap and get closer though.


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[Maplesoup]

The redbull is just --- on corner exits, the only thing that kinda saved them in the straight was honda's top speed

Are you watching the same video? On every straight, the low gear acceleration phase, both cars were neck and neck and then the macca catches up at a rate of knots. Max made a mistake on one of the corners when was up by 3 tenths and lost it all. Bit surprised how quick the Mclaren was on the final sector with the slow corner.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/06/22/ver ... g-mclaren/

Finally what i have been saying for the last two weeks and getting slated as being a troll when i am just gutted that Renault has upped their game more than Honda. Didn't take long. Feel free to call Max a troll as well.

I would say that the credit needs to be placed at McLaren's door not Renault. They've had an amazing turn around.

[nzjrs]

There you go that is where you are wrong as a huge Albon and Toro Rosso fan, i have been analysing every sector data from the live feed of every practice sessions so far. Since Canada where Renault were confident of engine and launched their quali modes, and also in Bahrain, there was at least few tenths gained by Renault cars on the low drag Honda powered cars ie Toro rosso.
Redbull were comfortably at least half a second ahead of Mclaren but engine modes from Renault has reduced it to few tenths.

Your analysis is so shallow that we don't need to tell you anything - most of your posts are drive by drivel at the end of the session or race. Those are by definition trolling! You have even said you would leave and come back next year on two occasions now! But the allure of posting troll posts always brings you back. Let it go mate.

If you post analysis then we might engage. Heck, you never understand or perform any of your analysis on the McLaren / Renault delta or the RB / TR delta, you don't seek to understand the root cause for the tempestuous tires, you cherry pick cheap takes because you have an axe to grind. Please post something of value and maybe your reputation would increase - but I bet most people have you on ignore these days.

[loner]

There you go that is where you are wrong as a huge Albon and Toro Rosso fan, i have been analysing every sector data from the live feed of every practice sessions so far. Since Canada where Renault were confident of engine and launched their quali modes, and also in Bahrain, there was at least few tenths gained by Renault cars on the low drag Honda powered cars ie Toro rosso.
Redbull were comfortably at least half a second ahead of Mclaren but engine modes from Renault has reduced it to few tenths.

i usually don't like arguing a lost case but i have a question for you
why you try to prove something Honda racing boss him self already confirmed.
Honda is lacking power and need to introduce some upgrades to catch up
they like to act as a smart ass some times it work some times it won't
in 2015 they entered late a full year then they come up with the C in the V claiming copying Mercedes won't make them win , then they literally copied Mercedes which made them suffer from the turbo to mgu-h connect shaft being extremely fragile took them alot of time and trials to fixing it specially with a collaboration with their jet crew
till they at last mastered it only to find that Ferrari with their more conventional layout is more powerful after all
they gained massive experience .. lessons been learnt .. all that was through many events most of them weren't good claiming them the title of the drama queen , there are not that huge gaps now between the 4 manufactures.. 2019 season got many factors beside the PU.
you just keep repeating your self.. would be better to wait until they introduce the coming 2 updates.