2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[McMika98]

Your analysis is so shallow that we don't need to tell you anything - most of your posts are drive by shallow drivel at the end of the session or race.

If you post analysis then we might engage. Heck, you never understand or perform any of your analysis on the McLaren / Renault delta or the RB / TR delta, you don't seek to understand the root cause for the tempestuous tires, you cherry pick cheap takes because you have an axe to grind. Please post something of value and maybe your reputation would increase - but I bet most people have you on ignore these days.

Mate i believe we had a bet where u said Redbull will outqualify Mclaren and Renault and my side was Ricarrdo and Mclaren to outqualify Gasly. Are u going to honour that. Even if u dont at least provide some data to back up your insights.
My personal horse in this championship is Max to win the world championship, and seeing the car crash unfolding in the last few races has me really riled i will admit. Spain Monaco and many more races before showed Red bull chassis is way ahead of Mclaren, if u dont believe me its ok. What do u have to refute to Max's verdict on the engine mode. Preseason the target was to get a win by Monaco and now they are closer to midfield than the front, some of it is chassis but lets not ignore the white elephant at the back of all 4 Redbull cars.

[hollus]

Folks, please keep it civil and don’t make it personal. Thank you.

[nzjrs]

Your analysis is so shallow that we don't need to tell you anything - most of your posts are drive by shallow drivel at the end of the session or race.

If you post analysis then we might engage. Heck, you never understand or perform any of your analysis on the McLaren / Renault delta or the RB / TR delta, you don't seek to understand the root cause for the tempestuous tires, you cherry pick cheap takes because you have an axe to griznd. Please post something of value and maybe your reputation would increase - but I bet most people have you on ignore these days.

Mate i believe we had a bet where u said Redbull will outqualify Mclaren and Renault and my side was Ricarrdo and Mclaren to outqualify Gasly. Are u going to honour that. Even if u dont at least provide some data to back up your insights.
My personal horse in this championship is Max to win the world championship, and seeing the car crash unfolding in the last few races has me really riled i will admit. Spain Monaco and many more races before showed Red bull chassis is way ahead of Mclaren, if u dont believe me its ok. What do u have to refute to Max's verdict on the engine mode. Preseason the target was to get a win by Monaco and now they are closer to midfield than the front, some of it is chassis but lets not ignore the white elephant at the back of all 4 Redbull cars.

Off topic, but we didn't have a bet. No idea what you are on about.

[KelsO]

why no one pays attention to the rear and front wings?
It is obvious that Red Bull uses much more downforce. Even this additional frontal area in the front wing plays an important role in air resistance.
They use it simply because it gives time faster than with smaller wings.
They have more rake, more wings and a wider nose.

[GhostF1]

Because mcmika and smallsoldier ignore the total picture and find their way to this thread when McLaren or Renault do well. Just from that alone you can tell they are here for some Honda blasting.

Fact, Renault have a strong qualifying mode. Says Max.
Fact, Honda are stronger in race mode. Says Max.

Also fact, Renault have not proven reliability yet, I don't care how powerful you claim they are, fact of the matter is, they've detonated spectacularly at various tracks already across the board, even Norris in practice at this GP had an ERS issue, which if it were during the race, would of been race ending for him. So no, I don't think you can sit there and claim a thing just yet about who is superior or not just yet. We are talking minutia between them here, but just for reliability and development potential you'd be a fool not to stick with Honda.

[Marti_EF3]

We will see what the Spec 3 is tomorrow on the race, because it was focused on race pace. Maybe tomorrow the picture (at least for Honda) is much better than it was on quali. The next step is to up the game on quali PU side and tire side too.

But I'm a bit worried about that rear end of the RB15, seems at the moment they are unable to stabilize it, also with the aero. It's rare to say coming from RB, but right now the chasis is the weakest part of the car. Because STR are doing pretty well, even Albon with an old spec 2 was almost on Q3. And tomorrow he will start on mediums, so I expect him to be ahead of Gasly

[gokarter]

Mate i believe we had a bet where u said Redbull will outqualify Mclaren and Renault and my side was Ricarrdo and Mclaren to outqualify Gasly. Are u going to honour that. Even if u dont at least provide some data to back up your insights.
My personal horse in this championship is Max to win the world championship, and seeing the car crash unfolding in the last few races has me really riled i will admit. Spain Monaco and many more races before showed Red bull chassis is way ahead of Mclaren, if u dont believe me its ok. What do u have to refute to Max's verdict on the engine mode. Preseason the target was to get a win by Monaco and now they are closer to midfield than the front, some of it is chassis but lets not ignore the white elephant at the back of all 4 Redbull cars.

why arent the moderators remove his post. it quite clear his intentions. trolling. check all his post. it is clear their is an issue with redbull chassis . if not how come a toro rosso which has always been over second slower in all other previous season come very close to outqualifying gasly? for me it because of a shorter wheelbase that does not suit 2019 tyres. look at HAAS second shortest wheelbasec car, fantastic engine but lacks pace. time for a b spec from newey

[damager21]

This seems to be the worst Qualifying performance by Max this year (if we were to discount Canada which was down to a bad mistake by Red Bull)
Australia 0.834
Bahrain 0.886
China 0.542
Azerbaijan 0.574
Spain 0.951
Canada 1.56
Monaco 0.475
France 1.09

Max in his final run was clearly struggling with the rear and lost some time. McLaren's pace was brilliant, I believe it is down to upgraded Renault engine (with better party mode) as well McLaren bringing some upgrades which is helping their tyres operate at the right temperature through out the lap

Max pace on Medium tyres looks encouraging and hopefully we see a strong performance in the race. A question though, both Red Bull and Ferrari have been complaining about tyres for loss in performance during the lap, we are already into eight race of the season but none of the have managed to solve the issue yet. Why so?

[loner]

A question though, both Red Bull and Ferrari have been complaining about tyres for loss in performance during the lap, we are already into eight race of the season but none of the have managed to solve the issue yet. Why so?

most of teams complains from tyres , its like the Mercs said abracadabra and violaaaa the genie of the tyres at their services.
is it coincident that mclaren qualified p5 and p6 just after they adopted Mercs solution to front suspension POU

[Ground Effect]

I think Red Bull have a decision to make, either go for a B spec car, or switch focus to 2020. They have been bringing updates regularly, but are still struggling with the car, so could there be a fundamental flaw? The chassis is not a complete disaster, but it's clearly not up to their usual golden standard, at this stage of the season, they would have been getting stronger, even after their usual slow start. Let's not also underestimate the tyre issues, it appears they struggle more on the soft compound. But if they were going to still have a B car this season, they should have been in it for a while, so it could be ready after the summer break.

[KelsO]

This seems to be the worst Qualifying performance by Max this year (if we were to discount Canada which was down to a bad mistake by Red Bull)
Australia 0.834
Bahrain 0.886
China 0.542
Azerbaijan 0.574
Spain 0.951
Canada 1.56
Monaco 0.475
France 1.09

Max in his final run was clearly struggling with the rear and lost some time. McLaren's pace was brilliant, I believe it is down to upgraded Renault engine (with better party mode) as well McLaren bringing some upgrades which is helping their tyres operate at the right temperature through out the lap

Max pace on Medium tyres looks encouraging and hopefully we see a strong performance in the race. A question though, both Red Bull and Ferrari have been complaining about tyres for loss in performance during the lap, we are already into eight race of the season but none of the have managed to solve the issue yet. Why so?

Mercedes in the past for a long time could not cope with the tires. this is a very difficult question. Even If Honda rises to the level of Ferrari, I am afraid it will not help to catch up with Mercedes in quali. Red Bull has a good chassis, but the Merce chassis is better. Last year, Rude Bull hoped to make up for Honda’s possible lag with the help of the chassis, obviously this hope did not come true.

[ispano6]

Or better yet the end of the season when all the points are tallied.

Going to be a hot race. Let's see who steers Lady Luck in their direction. In the end, we can consider it karma. Unless we see some dirty racing...

[Slo Poke]

A question though, both Red Bull and Ferrari have been complaining about tyres for loss in performance during the lap, we are already into eight race of the season but none of the have managed to solve the issue yet. Why so?

most of teams complains from tyres , its like the Mercs said abracadabra and violaaaa the genie of the tyres at their services.
is it coincident that mclaren qualified p5 and p6 just after they adopted Mercs solution to front suspension POU
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“Welcome to the Piranha Club.” Eddie Jordan did say!
Opening Channel Four sequence, Spa, 2013. In to the hilt and twist.

[epo]

A question though, both Red Bull and Ferrari have been complaining about tyres for loss in performance during the lap, we are already into eight race of the season but none of the have managed to solve the issue yet. Why so?

most of teams complains from tyres , its like the Mercs said abracadabra and violaaaa the genie of the tyres at their services.
is it coincident that mclaren qualified p5 and p6 just after they adopted Mercs solution to front suspension POU
https://imgr3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/M ... 603953.jpg

Thought they only used it on Friday and reverted back to the old one on Satuday?

[gokarter]

i believe it is a matter of time when toro rosso drivers keeps getting the better of gasly on a regular basis. maybe its time marko try his toro rosso drivers before going after hulk