2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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etusch
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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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If I were horner I would call Gasly in the box and fire him in the middle of race.

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etusch wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 16:57
If I were horner I would call Gasly in the box and fire him in the middle of race.
Agreeee

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loner
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bad result .. up your game Newey.
para bellum.

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We don't put pressure on GAS to compete Max because Max such a very special driver but we all agree that securing 6th place shouldn't be with that complexity .
We also agree that the car isn't good enough with the tires but also we agree that struggling to overtake Stroll in Canada is shame for him

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RBR need at least 40 hp from Honda urgently as well.
the coming 2 upgrades is very crucial.
para bellum.

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They are running more rear wing than they would like with current engine. But they need to cause of the twitchy rear, according to Max post race.

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So sad that Max's great performance is with RB15, with 2018 car or any other good car he will be WDC surely
Waiting for Honda's next update , but more concerning on how the technical team would deal with the tyres .. This is the real challenge for the team and more critical .

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I also think that the main problem is the chasis/aero. And like Max said, they need to add extra downforce to calm the rear end, and that have a direct impact on top speed, on tire wear... Without that issue, I'm sure that they would be fighting at the front with the current PU (not with Merc obviously, but yes to be on par with Ferrari every weekend)

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We saw Max loosing the rear multiple times during practice but you Guys are still winging about engine is Redbull absolved of any responsibilities to bring performance to the car . Honda have been aggressive with its development the engine works fine in the Str . High rake cars are not particularly good for top speed Mclaren learned that last year and they ditched the philosophy. The only thing Redbull bought this weekend was fancy mirrors nothing to add downforce maybe they have something for their home race.

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Bill wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 17:45
We saw Max loosing the rear multiple times during practice but you Guys are still winging about engine is Redbull absolved of any responsibilities to bring performance to the car . Honda have been aggressive with its development the engine works fine in the Str . High rake cars are not particularly good for top speed Mclaren learned that last year and they ditched the philosophy. The only thing Redbull bought this weekend was fancy mirrors nothing to add downforce maybe they have something for their home race.
Fyi they also bought new rims and wheels to restore some of the wheel blowing.

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I think major aero upgrade will be available only at Belgian grand prix while the next engine upgrade will be in Russia to avoid penalty for the Japanese grand prix. Red Bull usually has been very strong when it comes to in season improvements, must say that this season they are struggling to make upgrades work for them

Championship is long gone. They must pick up pace to gun for the 2nd position in Constructors and 3rd in the drivers championship. Dont think Gasly will lose his seat it is quite likely that Red Bull will seriously consider signing Hulk for next year

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And everyone who was panicking with Mc laren, our friend Mika must be hiding in a cave right now.!
Sainz 60 sec behind max ! Now, we need a major upgrade from Newey

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Why would you pay for Hulk, if you've Albon and even Kvyat on the pipeline, and a lot more cheaper than Hulk. That's only a bluff

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Bill wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 17:45
We saw Max loosing the rear multiple times during practice but you Guys are still winging about engine is Redbull absolved of any responsibilities to bring performance to the car . Honda have been aggressive with its development the engine works fine in the Str .
because you know better than Tanabe ?
they call 10 hp slightly more power surely major will be no less than 40
both sides are lacking.
para bellum.

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From Max his own site. Translation:

"I gave everything that was in it and we maximized again. My start was good, but we are short on the straight. I had a nice action outside Leclerc at turn two. I had more momentum, but then our car just runs not hard enough and you can't do anything. I was lucky that I was not overtaken by a McLaren in the first round."

The Dutchman continues: “After that I was able to ride my own race and I tried to follow Charles Leclerc. It was a bit of a lonely race, but I had Leclerc in sight. So it was not very boring, because you are trying to push. "

When asked where the Aston Martin Red Bull Racing team can get the most profit, Verstappen replies:
“We are running out of power on this circuit and the car is also not optimal. Yet there are only a few turns where we are really slower than Mercedes. We would have to drive with a little less downforce, but at the moment that is not possible with the car, because then he is not strong enough at the back. So we still have work to do. "
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