2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Xyz22]

https://i.imgur.com/yPfnIx5.png

The fact that Hards show worse degradation than Softs is embarrassing for Pirelli. They've made a mess out of this year's tires.

The C1 is just too hard to this track and doesn't generate enough grip. The car then starts to slide a lot so you don't have any advantage in terms of deg compared to the others.

[SoulPancake13]

https://i.imgur.com/yPfnIx5.png

The fact that Hards show worse degradation than Softs is embarrassing for Pirelli. They've made a mess out of this year's tires.

The C1 is just too hard to this track. The car starts to slide a lot so you don't have any advantage in terms of deg compared to the others.

How many years is it now that Pirelli have just --- the bed in terms of tyres?

[Fakepivot]

Vasseur comes across philosophical and laid back some times. But I would not fire him.
Luca Montezelomo was of the opinion the team lacked leadership for some time now. I do not agree however. Fred is a stable leader. Probably the best outside of Zack and Stella.

The car understeers too much. It's not bad but somewhat of a damp squib. On the other hand Mercedes drivers and Mclaren are loving their cars. Redbull and Ferrari still have gremlins in their car.
Charles has done great this week and last. Really maximizing the situation. I think it was a good choice to also swap out Sainz. He would be a distraction for the team to favour him. He's carried the same atittude to Williams and it's not working out so well.

who cares about luca? got rid of the legendary three, some leadership that is huh.

[bluechris]

Ι think that was the best result that the team could get today. The SC was bad for us as always, but both drivers were great.
Easily the team with the best drivers.
Kudos also to the strategy team, when was the last time Ferrari were better strategy wise?

[SoulPancake13]

Ι think that was the best result that the team could get today. The SC was bad for us as always, but both drivers were great.
Easily the team with the best drivers.
Kudos also to the strategy team, when was the last time Ferrari were better strategy wise?

Ferrari have been good on strategy since Vasseur has gotten here for the most part.

[f1316]

IMO they wasted the strategic advantage - yes the safety car didn’t help but I think they made two errors (1) not going with the one stop (2) not using the soft at the SC - Russell showed it was doable and the hard was always going to be useless.

Charles maximised what he was given and Lewis pretty much too tbh, but it could have been better. Pace generally was decent so let’s see in Jeddah as it seems like they’re optimistic for the high speed corners.

Given how horrific the hard was, Ferrari was right not to go for the one stopper. They pitted him at the perfect time to avoid the DRS train. He then drove a perfect stint on the second set of mediums that was sadly cut short by the safety car. If he gets 5-7 more laps and no safety car he can go on the softs until the end and get a comfortable P2.

Ferrari was clearly winning the strategy game here.

I don’t agree - there’s a reason why Leclerc was pleading for this option and it’s because he had more life left in the medium. He had about 13 seconds advantage on Piastri at that point and was losing about a second per lap. He could have stretched another 10 laps or so and then been in a position where his new hards -even not optimal - were at least faster than very old mediums by that point. That would have given him track position and a buffer of maybe 6 or 7 seconds at the end - albeit it’s probable the SC would have screwed us even then.

I think it was worth trying and, if they chose not to because they didn’t fancy the hards, then you have to go soft at the SC. You can’t do neither one thing nor the other, which is what they ended up with. I’m kinda one of the most glass half full for Ferrari in this thread so surprised people thought they did well in strategy.

[bananapeel23]

IMO they wasted the strategic advantage - yes the safety car didn’t help but I think they made two errors (1) not going with the one stop (2) not using the soft at the SC - Russell showed it was doable and the hard was always going to be useless.

Charles maximised what he was given and Lewis pretty much too tbh, but it could have been better. Pace generally was decent so let’s see in Jeddah as it seems like they’re optimistic for the high speed corners.

Given how horrific the hard was, Ferrari was right not to go for the one stopper. They pitted him at the perfect time to avoid the DRS train. He then drove a perfect stint on the second set of mediums that was sadly cut short by the safety car. If he gets 5-7 more laps and no safety car he can go on the softs until the end and get a comfortable P2.

Ferrari was clearly winning the strategy game here.

I don’t agree - there’s a reason why Leclerc was pleading for this option and it’s because he had more life left in the medium. He had about 13 seconds advantage on Piastri at that point and was losing about a second per lap. He could have stretched another 10 laps or so and then been in a position where his new hards -even not optimal - were at least faster than very old mediums by that point. That would have given him track position and a buffer of maybe 6 or 7 seconds at the end - albeit it’s probable the SC would have screwed us even then.

I think it was worth trying and, if they chose not to because they didn’t fancy the hards, then you have to go soft at the SC. You can’t do neither one thing nor the other, which is what they ended up with. I’m kinda one of the most glass half full for Ferrari in this thread so surprised people thought they did well in strategy.

Both strategies would have been fine I guess, assuming he could have stretched his first mediums long enough. If he goes for another 5-10 laps, then pits onto hards he gets absolutely slaughtered by the safety car though. So in hindsight it was good they went for a two-stopper.

It was really just a case of bad luck for Ferrari IMO. They were clearly on the best strategy if not for the safety car.

[Luscion]

“What’s clear is, as humans, we get really stuck in our ways and I think I’ve been driving in the same style and certain way with the same team for such a long time.”

“It requires such different driving style and settings. I’ve been using engine braking which I’ve never ever used in my previous years. Much different brakes if you’re on Brembos and I’ve been on [carbon industries] for the last 15 years or so.”

“This car requires a much much different driving style so I’m adjusting to that and I think Im slowly getting it into my head. And getting the balance right, what’s clear is that Charles starts with a set up and he stays with it pretty much all weekend and I was a long way away from him.”

“I gotta do a better job through the weekend, I know I can and I will.”

“I gotta make it easy for myself. I’ll try next week, to start at a better place and not deviate from that too much.”

“I think I’ve figured out how the car likes to drive so hopefully if I can apply that next week, if I qualify better I can have a much better weekend.”

[GrizzleBoy]

At least he THINKS he knows where he's going wrong now.

Sounds much better than the impression he was lost from before.

Anyone can talk though so let's see if he puts it into practice next week.

[Fakepivot]

what ? merc din't have engine breaking??

[ScuderiaLeo]

I'm not sure about Jeddah, it's not his best circuit already and the discomfort might be amplified by the high speeds. But after that there's *finally* a break and hopefully both him and the team can regroup and review what to take forward.

The reactions from the drivers about the car are overall more positive and they've made progress in the balance, but Leclerc seems disappointed still in the pace.

I wonder if they are pushing to bring something to Miami.

[GrizzleBoy]

what ? merc din't have engine breaking??

Wonder if he means lift and coast?

Different way of deploying energy through a lap might mean more energy used in places he's not used to and recovering more in places he's not used to.

[ringo]

Jeddah may not be bad. Not many slow corners if I remember. More medium speed. It's not a hard track to drive if you stay out of the walls.
This car has a good engine also and is predictable.
Lewis difficulty with the track was the unpreditable mercedes cars. Shouldnt be a difficult weekend.

[SoulPancake13]

Jeddah may not be bad. Not many slow corners if I remember. More medium speed. It's not a hard track to drive if you stay out of the walls.
This car has a good engine also and is predictable.
Lewis difficulty with the track was the unpreditable mercedes cars. Shouldnt be a difficult weekend.

Jeddah is all high and medium speed where Lewis is currently getting crushed by Charles...

[ScuderiaLeo]

No penalty for Russell, so standings remain unchanged.