Williams FW34 Renault

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Aero testing. Right Click>view image

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Seemed to be a very conservative day yesterday, as neither the driver or the team seem particularly happy with the setup of the car. Hopefully the data they gathered allows them to make some adjustments for today.

Other than the change in livery, I've not noticed anything different about the car from Jerez really. Anyone spot any differences?

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There seems to be a lot in common with the mercedes car in terms of the the FW pillars and the vanes behind them. Secret FW f-duct :wink:

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kris wrote:There seems to be a lot in common with the mercedes car in terms of the the FW pillars and the vanes behind them. Secret FW f-duct :wink:
Yes, there does seem to be a swelling in the pylons starting at the leading edge and extending to about half way back. There is speculation on the W03 thread that a similar feature on the Merc Pylons is concealing the ducting for the front wing stalling device.
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I think it is just for strength on the FW34, as only the leading edge connects the supports with the wing.

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+1 roadie. That's probably even the reason for the W03's pylon shape as well...but sticking to topic, look at the nose inlet:

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Doubt that little amount of air is going to make any difference on the FW.

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And I think we may blow FW..?

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I am sorry to disapoint you, but I dont think we do. The thicker part of the FW pylon is the structual part of it, and then the thinner part is purly for aero resons.

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Pastor Maldonado reckons the Williams-Renault FW34 with which he set the fastest time of the third day's testing at Barcelona has improved significantly since he last drove it at Jerez.

The Venezuelan, whose lap of 1m22.391s was the quickest time recorded by a 2012 car at the Catalan circuit, said the Williams appears to be a genuinely competitive improvement over its predecessor.

"The car has improved a lot and it's getting better and better every day," said Maldonado. "Especially since we didn't have any issues with the car so we have always done more than 100 laps every day - which is pretty positive for the factory to have many laps to analyse and see the data.

"I'm pretty happy. The car looks competitive and much better than last year's car for sure. Everything is working; the engine, the gearbox, the aero and even mechanically so... it is not a perfect car, it's still early and we have a lot of things to improve, but the car is quick.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97659
"We need to still do analysis and develop the car a little more, but this is a good point to start with."

Maldonado added that new parts are being brought to Barcelona for the final test which he hopes will resolve the slow corner issues identified by both Bruno Senna and Valtteri Bottas.

"We have a good improvement in the aero department so I hope so," said Maldonado. "Hopefully it will improve on all the corners of the track, even the fast ones. We will see, I'm pretty confident."

He added: "I am happy because each time we make a change I can feel it, which is so positive. I have a great feeling with the car, even with the engineer just to explain what it was doing at the moment. Even with high fuel, low fuel, long runs, it all seems clear."
A positive message from Pastor. I'm glad he thinks the car is performing well. However, it's in complete isolation to the competition.

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You would have thunk with the low gearbox they would have gobs of low speed grip...
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volarchico wrote:+1 roadie. That's probably even the reason for the W03's pylon shape as well...but sticking to topic, look at the nose inlet:

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Doubt that little amount of air is going to make any difference on the FW.
That front wing just looks funny. I cannot even imagine how you proper engineer, spec and dimension that thing. Almost like the CFD software designed it, based in flow, pressure zones....reverse part design by CFD.
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Williams need a new front wing, this sliced fruit looking wing can't cut it.
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Like was said above, it's like they told their CFD engineers: "go build whatever the computer says looks good. Wind tunnel? bahh!"
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Pierce89 wrote:Like was said above, it's like they told their CFD engineers: "go build whatever the computer says looks good. Wind tunnel? bahh!"
+1

Any idea who their lead aero guy is?
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