Formula E

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Are these cars shaping up to be quicker than current or 2014 F1 cars?

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not a chance

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Huntresa wrote:
Also that calender, this gotta be the only Motorsport series that run a season over 2 different years ? Or am i wrong ?
Winter Series are rare in motorsports. But A1GP used to run in the winter and it ran inbetween two years
ecapox wrote:Are these cars shaping up to be quicker than current or 2014 F1 cars?
Not enough downforce and not enough power I don't think it ever will in the near future either. The series is meant to promote battery technology rather than aero developments do I'm not sure FE will even develop aero packages that'll be better than IndyCar or GP2 even. Battery Engines have a ton of torque tho so the cars should be hard to drive regardless

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Many places run street races for slower cars. Pau, Angouleme, Macau, Isle of Man, Northwest 200 (bikes only), Oliver's Mount, Adelaide, Boavista and Norisring off the top of my head and dozens of others that host top level motorsport (Singapore and Monaco, for example). These Formula E cars are not going to be fast with the power of an F3 car, the aero performance of a Formula Ford and the weight of an LMP2. They may be quite exciting to watch though, given treaded tyres and no downforce on street circuits.

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autogyro wrote:The performance of the FE cars is much higher than that originally suggested for electric open wheel racers.
The run off areas and safety barriers with very close spectator facilities in these City centers will increase accident potential.
Agree, but FE perfomance will be quite far from F1 perfomance, so that problem should worry F1 people and spectators a lot more, and I don´t see too many people complaining about Monaco...

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andylaurence wrote:Many places run street races for slower cars. Pau, Angouleme, Macau, Isle of Man, Northwest 200 (bikes only), Oliver's Mount, Adelaide, Boavista and Norisring off the top of my head and dozens of others that host top level motorsport (Singapore and Monaco, for example). These Formula E cars are not going to be fast with the power of an F3 car, the aero performance of a Formula Ford and the weight of an LMP2. They may be quite exciting to watch though, given treaded tyres and no downforce on street circuits.
And no red flags or pit-stops if it start rainning.... wich I think is the reason to put the seasson in winter, rain will actually provide more excitement :twisted:

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Andres125sx wrote:
autogyro wrote:The performance of the FE cars is much higher than that originally suggested for electric open wheel racers.
The run off areas and safety barriers with very close spectator facilities in these City centers will increase accident potential.
Agree, but FE perfomance will be quite far from F1 perfomance, so that problem should worry F1 people and spectators a lot more, and I don´t see too many people complaining about Monaco...

http://www.galvano-iridium.com/tl_files ... monaco.jpg
I don't see many of the other Cities on the list paying out to the level Monaco does for track safety.
The decision will be for the FIA.
Don't under estimate the performance of these cars.

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10th Team in.

Hollywood star Leonardo DiCaprio is to enter a team in the new electric motor racing championship Formula E

"with Gildo Pallanca Pastor, owner of electric carmaker Venturi Automobiles."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25300016

aleks_ader wrote:Formula E confirms inaugural calendar

2014/2015 FIA Formula E Championship – Calendar

ROUND CITY DATE
Round 1 Beijing, China 13th September 2014
Round 2 Putrajaya, Malaysia 18th October 2014
Round 3 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 15th November 2014
Round 4 Punta del Este, Uruguay 13th December 2014
Round 5 Buenos Aires, Argentina 10th January 2015
Round 6 Los Angeles, USA 14th February 2015
Round 7 Miami, USA 14th March 2015
Round 8 Monte Carlo, Monaco* 9th May 2015
Round 9 Berlin, Germany 30th May 2015
Round 10 London, UK 27th June 2015


* All events remain subject to FIA Track Homologation.
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Will any races coincide with an F1 race? i find it crazy they wont try and boost media exposure by having it at an F1 weekend...
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oT v1 wrote:
aleks_ader wrote:Formula E confirms inaugural calendar

2014/2015 FIA Formula E Championship – Calendar

ROUND CITY DATE
Round 1 Beijing, China 13th September 2014
Round 2 Putrajaya, Malaysia 18th October 2014
Round 3 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 15th November 2014
Round 4 Punta del Este, Uruguay 13th December 2014
Round 5 Buenos Aires, Argentina 10th January 2015
Round 6 Los Angeles, USA 14th February 2015
Round 7 Miami, USA 14th March 2015
Round 8 Monte Carlo, Monaco* 9th May 2015
Round 9 Berlin, Germany 30th May 2015
Round 10 London, UK 27th June 2015


* All events remain subject to FIA Track Homologation.
More info
Will any races coincide with an F1 race? i find it crazy they wont try and boost media exposure by having it at an F1 weekend...
I check it and if i had right that will hapend on just two occasions. Malasian and Spanich GP so in FE in is that....

Round 7 Miami, USA 14th March 2015
Round 8 Monte Carlo, Monaco* 9th May 2015

Anyway idea it is not bat at all, but still i m not sure if it is the best solution. The main target let say 50% of technical enthusiastic people will be more concentrated in F1 weekends. So i still believe that like it was that set util now is best compromise for all for us. For Electro, mechanical engineers and also for main pure racing enthusiastic and also for all other "green" minded viewers all around the world.

Yes the Electrical avto-motor future had tremendous opportunity to make it happen. Now or never! Venturi, Drayson, just Tesla is really missing... The biggest problem is how make it carbon footprint 0 or at-least replaced it with renewable energy. Still is big problem how come from source of electricity, manufacturing process and than to plug of the house to the vehicle with pure nature friendly cycle.

If i moralize, people need still so much to learn. Maybe is F-E step in right direction. At least 1 problem on that path could became broken.
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

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Very interesting!

Red Bull has admitted it might consider joining the FIA’s burgeoning electric single seater series, dubbed Formula E.
World champion Sebastian Vettel recently admitted he is no fan of the city racing concept, despite the fact the almost-silent cars are being built by famous Formula 1 names Williams and McLaren.

“I don’t like it at all,” the Red Bull driver said. ”I think the people come here to feel Formula 1 and there’s not much to feel when a car goes by and you don’t even hear anything else but the wind.”

Many, however, do not agree with Vettel. Former Formula 1 driver Michael Andretti has entered a team, as has the German carmaker Audi. Alain Prost is involved with the E.Dams outfit, and Super Aguri will be on the grid when the racing kicks off in China next September.

The concept has even wooed Virgin back to open wheel racing, while Hollywood actor Leonardo DiCaprio is listed as a founder of the Venturi team.

Formula 1 world champion Red Bull’s Helmut Marko said: “We have been asked (to enter a team), but at the moment our full focus is on Formula 1.

We will look again at this series and re-evaluate after the first season,” he told the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag.
So no hopes for other teams. :( Adag ("chief" of FE) must make very quick intervention and prevent RB coming into the series. Future domination&monotony must be prevented. :lol: LOL No it is nice to had many huge ant strong marketing corporations even looking for possibility.

Just to point out rules aim to prevent any AERO work? How they think they will do that? Chassis from 1 suplier like this first year from SPARK? So for electro-motor and electronic&software deportment will also had very limiting ground to play with (space, suspension etc.). Does any had idea about rules from 2014 onwards? There are just wordings, does get here any sort of rumors...
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

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they'll probably just start sponsoring the winning team, like they always do.
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wesley123 wrote:they'll probably just start sponsoring the winning team, like they always do.
How is that what they always do ? Jaguar wasnt exactly chasing down titles before Red Bull came in the picture... And neither was Toro Rosso eventho they still arent... :P

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Huntresa wrote:
wesley123 wrote:they'll probably just start sponsoring the winning team, like they always do.
How is that what they always do ? Jaguar wasnt exactly chasing down titles before Red Bull came in the picture... And neither was Toro Rosso eventho they still arent... :P
Nor were Sauber for that matter
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And none of their Soccer teams are especially good if we look international aka Champions League, so you can hardly say RB favours the best in the world, they however seek and strive after the best but not instantly buying it.

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Huntresa wrote:
wesley123 wrote:they'll probably just start sponsoring the winning team, like they always do.
How is that what they always do ? Jaguar wasnt exactly chasing down titles before Red Bull came in the picture... And neither was Toro Rosso eventho they still arent... :P
Wow. Out of the millions of things they sponsor only one of those wasn't a top team.

Problem in F1 was that at that time every top team had a stable title sponsor, so who could Red Bull sponsor? There was none available and I am confident that if Renault, McLaren or whoever was without a title sponsor back then, Red Bull would have jumped in(although this is only based on assumptions).

It isn't without reason that every Red Bull sponsored guy is a winning competitor in whatever they may be doing.
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