2013 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona

[Anon123]

They should make the tyres 1 or 2 stop and try to create "excitement" in other ways, races are much more enjoyable when you see nothing then all of a sudden loads of action. At the moment races are just a constant stream of artificial overtaking.

[fiohaa]

Its the same for everybody. Come on. Ferrari just did a great job today. Its just that. Don't blame the tires, haters..

were you saying the same when Vettel was dominating in 2011?
or in the schumi domination years?

i bet not.

even the journalists being interviewed now on sky are complaining, whose job it is to write up F1 in the papers and make it as interesting and appealing as possible.

[raymondu999]

Doing long stints is just not paying off anymore (except for Lotus who are exceptionally well at keeping degradation under control).

Oh it is. What Lotus haven't seemed to catch on to though is that these long stints are beneficial when done at the end, and not the start, of races. That way you get the undercut when you pit earlier.

[muhammadtalha-13]

Its the same for everybody. Come on. Ferrari just did a great job today. Its just that. Don't blame the tires, haters..

If it was the same for everybody, then why Vettel was o good in Bahrain and not here?

[Bomber_Pilot]

Alonso had a slow puncture in the last set of tyres.

Actually it was in the first stint and they only found out about it when the tire was taken off the car.

[enz0]

Its the same for everybody. Come on. Ferrari just did a great job today. Its just that. Don't blame the tires, haters..

If it was the same for everybody, then why Vettel was o good in Bahrain and not here?

Ironically it's the tyres Red Bull wanted

[Bomber_Pilot]

A flexi-floor test is currently being conducted on the Ferrari.

[Nomore]

Its the same for everybody. Come on. Ferrari just did a great job today. Its just that. Don't blame the tires, haters..

+100...unfortunately voting is not allowed here.
They Ask Horner and Lauda ???

Why they don't ask Domenicali, Bullier, Force India, Sauber..etc...?!?!?!?!?!?!

8 out of 11 teams like the tyres (ie Paul Hembery)

Ferrari didn't blame the tires in bahrain. Red Bull didn't blame the tires in Bahrain. Ferrari didn't blame the tires in Barcelona. Red bull is blaming the tires in Barcelona (Australia and China too).

This is the difference between a true team and a fake team.

[raymondu999]

If they had the balls to run the same strategy as Ferrari, they could push. I didn't see Alonso dicking around saving tires.

This sums up today's race perfectly. Ferrari's lightbulb moment: "Hey, let's just schedule an extra stop and race the crap out of these tires." And it seems to have worked pretty well. Alonso from P5 to P1 and Massa from P9 to P3, which, incidentally, makes you wonder where he would have been if he had started from P6.

Of course, I suspect that the others will have caught on by the next race and we will see more 4-stoppers this season.

I disagree that it's a universal truth. Best strategy per car will be defined by the circuit and the car. If the car + circuit are barder on tyres, that biases the optimum towards more stops. If the car, or circuit, or both, are kinder, that will bias the optimum toward less stops.

Naturally then it goes without saying that different cars have different optimums.

They Ask Horner and Lauda ???

Why they don't ask Domenicali, Bullier, Force India, Sauber..etc...?!?!?!?!?!?!

Because they're reporters. Bad news sells. Good news is boring.

[miguelalvesreis]

when you have brundle saying 'when you have alonso or raikonnen just doing this (does steering wheel turning slowly motion)...........i could drive that'

(this is from someone whos been a strong supporter of this tyre racing).

Horner: 'i challenge you to find anyone in pitlane who is actually enjoying this'
kravitz: 'well alonso will be pretty happy?'
horner: 'he will feel exactly the same as vettel did in bahrain'

even the anchor asking questions to his fellow presenters questioning the racing........on a pay channel which has to give the impression that f1 is the best thing ever...........

how can people on here still be defending this 'racing'?

vettel: 'i was driving to pace of tyre, not the car'
hamilton: 'i cannot drive any slower'

drivers unsure whether to overtake or hold station. What a fail.

2011 when Ferrari wasn't able to put the hards to work was their fault! Now that RBR and MB aren't able to efficientrly use the tires is Pirelli's fault? Cmmon! They are just whinning cause others done a better job adapting to the variables in play! Just as Montzemolo did whe Ferrari wasn't up to the game with aerodynamics?!

Nevertheless, I agree it is kind of boring to see the races. U just have to follow the live timing. I would rather have flat out races but with wheel 2 wheel fights!

Still remember drivers running out of fuel in the last lap, with the checkerd flag at sight, coming out of the cars and pushing!! Where relaibility was an issue and cars were breaking down while being fastest on the race! Nobody complaint the that the races were too long!

They've just adapted and improved!

[miguelalvesreis]

Its the same for everybody. Come on. Ferrari just did a great job today. Its just that. Don't blame the tires, haters..

If it was the same for everybody, then why Vettel was o good in Bahrain and not here?

Maybe this can explain...

From autosport.com:
"Vettel also believes Red Bull make a strategic mistake by initially trying to pull off a three-stop plan before resorting to four.

"I think we tried to hang on to the three-stop for too long in the race and had to admit towards the end we wouldn't make it," he said."

[GrizzleBoy]

All I know is that GP2 regularly embarrasses Formula 1 in terms of providing a racing spectacle and today was a bit of a joke to be honest.

On Sky's "red button" they had the main guys on board cameras all lined up in a row, and they were all driving alone apart from the times where their strategies converged and one overtook the other and then they were all alone again due to the difference in pace regarding where they were in their relative stints.

The only action in the races these days seems to be at the beginning when some cars are better on cold tyres or heating up cold tyres, a tiny amount of legitimate moves that you could count on your hands and a whole load of DRS and passing "in the pits" through strategy. Then a last minute blast between two random cars that happen to be close on the last lap.

Other than that, I would rather watch GP2.

[Nomore]

Because they're reporters. Bad news sells. Good news is boring.

Agree and also is good to see that there are also "non Ferrari" supporter that don't buy the "is all fault to the tires"

[andreag]

If it was the same for everybody, then why Vettel was o good in Bahrain and not here?

Because Alonso had a broken DRS in Bahrain and not here. Without that, Bahrain's winner should have been the same one than today.

[raymondu999]

Because they're reporters. Bad news sells. Good news is boring.

Agree and also is good to see that there are also "non Ferrari" supporter that don't buy the "is all fault to the tires"

I still blame the tyres, but I don't hold that thanks to this race. I have been against them since Day 1. If, however, with the hardest possible tyre choices (medium/hard) 4 stops come as a mainstream choice - something has to change IMO.

I don't get all this tosh about harder tyres favoring RBR or softer tyres favoring Lotus etc. Both extremes of team (high/low tyre usage) will benefit equally, and in the relative race picture shouldn't really change much