2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

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mendis wrote: ↑
01 May 2023, 05:14
Is Nyck a wrong choice for AT? He continues to be lackluster and hasn't put one lap worth noting. Ever faultful Yuki is appearing a far better driver at this stage. Replacing Nyck with Daniel would make far more sense.
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So i think Ricciardo will the utterly outpaced in race spec for five races or so, but will claw his way back before end of year. Yuki will be infront of him in 2024 then Ricciardo will accept that he's truly lost his Mojo and retire.
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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 14:00
So i think Ricciardo will the utterly outpaced in race spec for five races or so, but will claw his way back before end of year. Yuki will be infront of him in 2024 then Ricciardo will accept that he's truly lost his Mojo and retire.
I doubt that very much - the reports are that he was able to get within 7/10th's of Max's pole time on the prototype, hard compound, no tire-warmer tire's. And it was only after an hour of him driving the RB19, that they decided to fire Nyck.

Clearly, he has his mojo back.

PS, as long as the car is reasonably balanced, he'll be fine. Sure we know the car is slow, but as long as it isnt a weird car that requires the driver to "learn every single corner how to drive the car in a different way", he'll be fine.
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djos wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 14:18
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 14:00
So i think Ricciardo will the utterly outpaced in race spec for five races or so, but will claw his way back before end of year. Yuki will be infront of him in 2024 then Ricciardo will accept that he's truly lost his Mojo and retire.
I doubt that very much - the reports are that he was able to get within 7/10th's of Max's pole time on the prototype, hard compound, no tire-warmer tire's. And it was only after an hour of him driving the RB19, that they decided to fire Nyck.

Clearly, he has his mojo back.

PS, as long as the car is reasonably balanced, he'll be fine. Sure we know the car is slow, but as long as it isnt a weird car that requires the driver to "learn every single corner how to drive the car in a different way", he'll be fine.
We are comparing laptimes set on different days and different states of track evolution on a different tire?

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Of course, but it's still impressive given that it was apparently a "hard compound" and wasn't warmed up in tire blankets, so he had to get them up to temp, the old-fashioned way.
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djos wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 14:18
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 14:00
So i think Ricciardo will the utterly outpaced in race spec for five races or so, but will claw his way back before end of year. Yuki will be infront of him in 2024 then Ricciardo will accept that he's truly lost his Mojo and retire.
I doubt that very much - the reports are that he was able to get within 7/10th's of Max's pole time on the prototype, hard compound, no tire-warmer tire's. And it was only after an hour of him driving the RB19, that they decided to fire Nyck.

Clearly, he has his mojo back.

PS, as long as the car is reasonably balanced, he'll be fine. Sure we know the car is slow, but as long as it isnt a weird car that requires the driver to "learn every single corner how to drive the car in a different way", he'll be fine.
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Even if the lap times had been slower, Ricciardo would have gone straight to SAT. That was already established before the test day.
RBR wants to see asap who is better, Yuki or Ricciardo to ride alongside Max instead of Perez next season.
Whether RIC is still fast is not known, because he was riding on a rubberized track with completely unknown tires
developed for next year and maybe a second per lap faster than the new tires from last weekend,
which everyone has to get used to first, also Max in qualifying.
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It’ll be interesting for sure, I like Yuki but I also want to see the honey badger in top form. Hopefully they will both lift the team together.
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Daniel Ricciardo. His first interview as a SAT driver.

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It's not just the time Daniel set, but also the other driver times in context, which make Daniel's time look solid on the test tyre.



Quickest times during Silverstone's Pirelli test test:

1) Ricciardo - 1:27.415
2) Hulkenberg - 1:30.276
3) Magnussen - 1:31.247
4) Sargaent - 1:32.448
5) Albon - 1:32.453
6) Fittipaldi - 1:33.634

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tinuva wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 19:50
It's not just the time Daniel set, but also the other driver times in context, which make Daniel's time look solid on the test tyre.

Quickest times during Silverstone's Pirelli test test:

1) Ricciardo - 1:27.415
2) Hulkenberg - 1:30.276
3) Magnussen - 1:31.247
4) Sargaent - 1:32.448
5) Albon - 1:32.453
6) Fittipaldi - 1:33.634

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Pirelli gave them all different tyres, but never stated which tire it was, so these times cannot be put into context.
Also, not everyone has driven on the same tyre(s).
In addition, the RB19 is the fastest car compared to, for example, the Haas car.
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djos wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 15:08
It’ll be interesting for sure, I like Yuki but I also want to see the honey badger in top form. Hopefully they will both lift the team together.
Daniel had his moment in the sun. Yuki is more interesting as we dont know his true potential.
Daniel's weakness is he clearly is not adaptable. Yuki just has no reference point at all which is unfair to him if daniel were to go against max a second time in redbull.
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Wouter wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 21:29
tinuva wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 19:50
It's not just the time Daniel set, but also the other driver times in context, which make Daniel's time look solid on the test tyre.

Quickest times during Silverstone's Pirelli test test:

1) Ricciardo - 1:27.415
2) Hulkenberg - 1:30.276
3) Magnussen - 1:31.247
4) Sargaent - 1:32.448
5) Albon - 1:32.453
6) Fittipaldi - 1:33.634

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Pirelli gave them all different tyres, but never stated which tire it was, so these times cannot be put into context.
Also, not everyone has driven on the same tyre(s).
In addition, the RB19 is the fastest car compared to, for example, the Haas car.
3 seconds is a healthy enough gap to account for redbull dominance and a tyre gap say 1.5 seconds per lap worst case.
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ringo wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 21:37
djos wrote: ↑
15 Jul 2023, 15:08
It’ll be interesting for sure, I like Yuki but I also want to see the honey badger in top form. Hopefully they will both lift the team together.
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Daniel's weakness is he clearly is not adaptable. Yuki just has no reference point at all which is unfair to him if daniel were to go against max a second time in redbull.
Im sorry, but this "F1 drivers should be able to adapt to anything" is just silly, the Macca last year was so bad that in Landos own words "at its most problematic this meant having to β€œlearn every single corner how to drive the car in a different way”.
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Does reservedriver Liam Lawson get a seat next Year at SAT? He does great in SF!
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Starting second on the grid behind polesitter Tadasuke Makino, Lawson passed the Dandelion driver shortly after the pitstop phase to take the lead before marching to a comfortable 4.4s victory.

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With Ritomo Miyata finishing only third and Tomoki Nojiri having an uninspiring race en route to eighth,
Lawson sits just one point adrift of his TOM'S rivals in the standings with just three races left to run across Motegi and Suzuka.


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He has to be given a chance next year. Just has to.

Either Perez, Ricciardo or Tsunoda need to move on. It will be 12 important race weekends for all of them.