2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

[Sieper]

Because they nailed the set-up. In Q1 he was still having moments but they judged the ramp up perfectly. Max was also totally on it.

[DGP123]

I'm surprised Norris doesn't have consistently more pace over Piastri. It feels like he's less consistent than he was in previous years

Norris has always been overrated, mainly due to him being British. Beaten by Russell in F2, beaten in both 19’ & 20’ by Sainz at McLaren, and now he’s on the verge of being outshone by, Piastri. Norris’ reputation massively enhanced by Ricciardo, and the fact he’s a likeable character.

I think whichever route he takes though, he will be exposed. Piastri will become the main man at McLaren, and if he joins RBR, will be bent over by Max.

[Aesop]

I'm surprised Norris doesn't have consistently more pace over Piastri. It feels like he's less consistent than he was in previous years

Norris has always been overrated, mainly due to him being British. Beaten by Russell in F2, beaten in both 19’ & 20’ by Sainz at McLaren, and now he’s on the verge of being outshone by, Piastri. Norris’ reputation massively enhanced by Ricciardo, and the fact he’s a likeable character.

I think whichever route he takes though, he will be exposed. Piastri will become the main man at McLaren, and if he joins RBR, will be bent over by Max.

Narrowly beaten by Russell in a slightly lesser car I think? Beaten as a rookie by Sainz, but not by a lot. More or less on par the next season, that is a question mark. But he still has room to improve, maybe less than Piastri but we'll see.

Great lap by Max, Perez should be finished by now. But who's next?

[Spoutnik]

I'm surprised Norris doesn't have consistently more pace over Piastri. It feels like he's less consistent than he was in previous years

Norris has always been overrated, mainly due to him being British. Beaten by Russell in F2, beaten in both 19’ & 20’ by Sainz at McLaren, and now he’s on the verge of being outshone by, Piastri. Norris’ reputation massively enhanced by Ricciardo, and the fact he’s a likeable character.

I think whichever route he takes though, he will be exposed. Piastri will become the main man at McLaren, and if he joins RBR, will be bent over by Max.

I get the frustration for the British bias
I think Norris benefited quite a lot of the preferred strategy this year (Hungary..), and earlier upgrade. But Piastri looks like the real deal he has such a raw speed, and you can see in his personality that he trust himself.

[mclaren111]

Perez misses open goal, only needs a lap within 0,5s of Ver, but no ahahahaha, wtf dude, 7 tenths off whole weekend, are u ok?

Perez is just doing the job and collecting money at this stage. I would do the same. Makes no sense hw tries any harder. It's Max's team and even if Perez came within 2 tenths each race he still wont beat him over a season.

Mclaren is clearly 2nd best. They are on the right track for 2024. I am surprised no one is raising alarms on how much Piastri is challenging Norris this year.

Why alarms ? It's great for us to have 2 great drivers...

[Artur Craft]

Barely 4 tenths faster than last year. Those floor reg changes really did a number on cars.

Yeah, crazy to think these current cars are lapping at 2006 levels, given how much more downforce, power/torque, DRS, wide slick tyres that they have to compensate the extra 200kg.

The power/weight is the same for both current cars and the 2006 ones, 1.25. But I believe the current cars must have quite more than 33% of extra downforce, compared to 2006, to make for a better downforce/weight ratio. Plus, they have DRS and wider slick tyres.

The only plausible explanation I can think of is that even the old 2006 tyre war compounds from Bridgestone and Michelin must have given more grip despite being narrower and having grooves.

One can see how terrible Pirelli is by looking at the cornering speeds, at the hairpin, of these cars, which are the same of the Super GT one, ~72 km/h Those much heavier GT cars, with narrower tyres, should not be cornering at F1 speeds even on the corners in which downforce is far less relevant

[Artur Craft]

I'm surprised Norris doesn't have consistently more pace over Piastri. It feels like he's less consistent than he was in previous years

Norris has always been overrated, mainly due to him being British. Beaten by Russell in F2, beaten in both 19’ & 20’ by Sainz at McLaren, and now he’s on the verge of being outshone by, Piastri. Norris’ reputation massively enhanced by Ricciardo, and the fact he’s a likeable character.

All british drivers are insanely overrated because the English media dominates the F1 world, so it´s only natural to have this bias. I´m sure in most other countries their media also insanely hype their drivers, especially places like Brazil, Spain, Italy(trust me, I´ve watched a lot of RAI and they hype everything that is italian. They love to say that Italy has the best cheeses, coffee, wines, olive oils.... and what not), but all other countries are almost irrelevant when it comes to making the mainstream F1 narratives.

Russell is about the same talent as Albon, given how close they were on GP2 and their dominance over Latifi (eventhough Alex had even bigger gaps to the Canadian). All British drivers are far, far away from Max and Shal, but the hype is here and it is what it is (better to not even address the cult religion regarding our "fastest qualifier ever" and the endless narratives worshiping F1´s biggest heroic figure)

[Rinde]

Where can one get tyre usage charts for f1 weekends?

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[chrisc90]

Where can one get tyre usage charts for f1 weekends?

the strategy and tyre length will be out 'tomorrow' or later tonight given the time difference

[Mogster]

I'm surprised Norris doesn't have consistently more pace over Piastri. It feels like he's less consistent than he was in previous years

Norris has always been overrated, mainly due to him being British. Beaten by Russell in F2, beaten in both 19’ & 20’ by Sainz at McLaren, and now he’s on the verge of being outshone by, Piastri. Norris’ reputation massively enhanced by Ricciardo, and the fact he’s a likeable character.

I think whichever route he takes though, he will be exposed. Piastri will become the main man at McLaren, and if he joins RBR, will be bent over by Max.

2018 F2 was the first year of the new car. There were too many technical problems with the new car and it made individual results a lottery. Whatever, both Norris and Russell stood out as F1 ready with Albon and de-Vries close behind. Carlin were also clearly the weaker team behind ART with ART only losing the teams championship because of Aitken’s underperforming.

[organic]

Tyre sets left for the race:

https://i.imgur.com/Z67qVYA.png

How have alpha tauri ended up with 1 set of mediums and hards... everyone's talking about a 2 stop

[chrisc90]

Tyre sets left for the race:

https://i.imgur.com/Z67qVYA.png

How have alpha tauri ended up with 1 set of mediums and hards... everyone's talking about a 2 stop

Same with Stroll and both the Alfa's.

Aggressive 3 stopper with a soft in there.

[TFSA]

I just rewound the tape and Max was definitely all wheels off in T1 exit on his first Q3 run.

I just did as well, and he still had the front tyre on when the back tyre went off. So not track limit.

[Juzh]

Barely 4 tenths faster than last year. Those floor reg changes really did a number on cars.

One can see how terrible Pirelli is by looking at the cornering speeds, at the hairpin, of these cars, which are the same of the Super GT one, ~72 km/h Those much heavier GT cars, with narrower tyres, should not be cornering at F1 speeds even on the corners in which downforce is far less relevant

I think pirellis have to be super hard to cope with downforce levels, which in turn is very detrimental to low speed performance. As there's no tyre war there's no incentive to invest massive sums in order to improve overall performance.