Japanese GP 2009 - Suzuka

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No you got it right the first time. Its Legard with Brundle and Croft with Davidson. I agree with you about the Radio 5 team. Much better than the BBC1 team.

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andartop wrote:Well, Islam, I have to admit you re right: according to the press conference, Lewis himself doesn't know whether the KERS malfunctioned before or after the pit stop. (Guess that might indicate it didn't make that much of a difference, as he would probably remember if it did!)
He also describes how he was generally struggling with the car a bit at the last stint due to the lighter fuel load.
Oh, and he admits that despite the KERS problem, he didn't manage to exit the last corner close enough to Jarno at the restart after the SC to have half a chance of overtaking.

With all said and done, I respect that you are convinced that without the KERS problem Lewis would have finished second. I have my doubts, but I have no problem to admit that might as well have been the case.

In any case, either right in front of him or right behind, the thing is that this race proved either a) that the "Trulli train" can be as fast as "The Boss", or b) that "The Boss" can be as slow as the "Trulli train"!

Got it covered! 8)
What happened at your second pitstop?
"Just before my second pitstop, I lost KERS, and then coming out of the pitlane I got up to the limiter and all of a sudden the gearbox went into neutral. I didn't realise that for a couple of seconds, so I lost a little bit of time at the exit of the pits, which probably lost me the bit of time which ended up with Jarno coming past me.
"I think it's the first time all year that we've had KERS switch itself off during the race. We couldn't get it back on and don't know exactly what was wrong with it, but I lost a good three tenths a lap because of it.
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n smikle wrote:Yep, the KERS stopped before the second pitstop.

Here have a look..his gearbox also stopped working momentarily for a second or two after he exited the pits. You can see the higher peak on the graph for Hamilton on the pitlap vs Trulli's. Yes Hamilton is that good.. =D>

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http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/10/04/r ... -analysis/

According to F1 fanatic he could have came out before Trulli with a 0.3 second gap lead. But then again Trulli was very fast in the third stint.. he would have pressure Hamilton to the end.
I have a BSc in Maths and still can't figure this graph out, please somebody explain! :oops:

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oh if "the leader" pitted on lap 40 I kinda get it

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Gap the the leader is the Y-axis, X-axis is number of laps.
I think it's showing how trulli got ahead of Hamilton. It's showing that Trulli stayed out longer and was able to overtake Hamilton and the leader must've pitted not long after Trulli at all.
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James wrote:oh if "the leader" pitted on lap 40 I kinda get it
Awesome I get it, thanks a lot.

Sebastian really dropped them both after the pit stop then

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James wrote:
James wrote:oh if "the leader" pitted on lap 40 I kinda get it
Awesome I get it, thanks a lot.

Sebastian really dropped them both after the pit stop then
unless he wasn't the leader at that point? I'm going to stop looking at this now, I'm sure it's quite simple :lol:

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richard_leeds wrote:Anyone but Legard petition...
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/legard-out.html
He's a miiiiiillllllllllion times better than the itv chap james allen! :evil:

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BBC 5 live commentary is hugely better, Antony Davidson provides great technical detail and drivers views, whereas Crofty is really good with talking to any guests and is pretty funny at times.

On the other hand, the TV commentary is rubbish. Martin Brundle is OK, if a little dour, but Legard is the worst presenter I have ever heard. He doesn't seem to understand any of the technical or strategic details, has an obsession with the british drivers, and insists upon making every detail no matter how insignificant hugely exciting.

For example, 5 minutes into Q1: "Here comes Lewis Hamilton, he's really on a charge now, round the final few corners, can he win the championship right here right now? Really on a charge, a huge charge, can he get pole!? Yes he can! LEWIS HAMILTON TAKES POLE POSITION THIS IS INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!"

Brundle:"Although we expect the actual pace to be about 2 seconds faster by the end of the session... oh look a driver is laughing, how unprofessional of them..."

The man is such a massive moron. Fire him please BBC, and put Crofty and Davidson on the TV comms. (you can get the 5 live comms on the red button).

Jake Humpry's is great, he provides a nice antidote to the general dickheadedness of DC and Jordan (aren't they such fun to watch, especially when eddie tries to ask a question without actually having a question to ask...)

One comical feature I found on the red button is the childrens commentary; two poor kids TV presenters trying to dumb the sport down so that 5 year olds can understand, and failing miserably. Sounded very similar to normal commentary aside from the occasional intrusions of silly voices from weird and whacky kids characters.....

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I much prefer David Croft (who I adore in a sort of man-crush way <3) and Ant as they have a laugh but are insightful with it - David has a great way with words and Ant obviously has a lot of contemporary F1 experience. They should be promoted up.
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From autosport.com
Q. We saw this weekend quite a few big accidents, mainly from rookies. Some drivers complain that this is a bit of a dangerous circuit. What do you think?

Kimi Raikkonen: I think it is a dangerous sport. This is more a kind of old-style circuit. The new circuits have a lot of run-off with asphalt, so it makes no difference if you make a mistake, you can usually get back on the circuit. Here, if you make a mistake you are usually going to hit the wall and I think that is how it should be. You get punished for the mistakes and it makes it more exciting, and I think you need to be more precise.
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mx_tifosi wrote:From autosport.com
Q. We saw this weekend quite a few big accidents, mainly from rookies. Some drivers complain that this is a bit of a dangerous circuit. What do you think?

Kimi Raikkonen: I think it is a dangerous sport. This is more a kind of old-style circuit. The new circuits have a lot of run-off with asphalt, so it makes no difference if you make a mistake, you can usually get back on the circuit. Here, if you make a mistake you are usually going to hit the wall and I think that is how it should be. You get punished for the mistakes and it makes it more exciting, and I think you need to be more precise.
Ive heard Martin Brundle literally berating those run off areas for softening the sport...
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Paved run offs suck, if you screw up you should pay for it by getting stuck in the kitty litter!
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or better yet slamming into a wall and dying! Pay up silly driver!