Brazilian GP 2010 - Interlagos

[segedunum]

The Bahrain qualifying unit (engine #1) expired way back in China FP. The Bahrain race unit (engine #2) expired today.

No. This was an engine that was replaced during Bahrain, but wasn't used, and hasn't been used since according to the rules except possibly in free practice. That, in reality, is engine number 1.

It might well have been the engine that expired today but we don't get to know what engines they use in free practice. If it was the engine that was replaced at Bahrain today then in that case the engine situation is worse since that was the only low mileage unit left.

The Monza engine isn't anywhere close to its mileage limit, so it's irrelevent.

It is not an engine they will want to use several races in a row, and they'd rather not use an engine at all that has been stressed at Monza. The mileage itself is not the only consideration there.

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill regarding Alonso's engine siutation

No, it's really not. That's why they're talking about wheeling out the replaced low mileage Bahrain engine for Abu Dhabi. However, he could have lost that today.

The other joker is the 'reliability' changes Ferrari made that boosted their power by 15 hp. They made those changes to free engines after Malaysia I think and under the rules previous units could not be modified.

[kalinka]

Tazio, to have live stream outside UK is far from simple. If you incidentially get one good stream, then you probably get the messeage : this stream is unavaliable in your country. There is NO tv coverage of free practices in any of the surrounding countries where I live (!!???) , and it means it's at least 8 countries. Even Hungary has no live FP coverage, even so they have a regular race. You have to have a superb satellite system that catches almost all satellites in Europe to find a TV coverage of FP's. I watched the given stream for all of the Brasilian free practices, and it didn't go offline. It's a real problem here to find good streams , so I just want to help. So if that's a problem, anyone can PM me for a stream, and I wouldn't put it on the forum if that's a problem.

[djos]

In Aus we now get the SpeedTV Stream but it frequently has no commentary for FP1-3.

http://stream.speedtv.com/

[raymondu999]

Hey all. I've started to see recently that Brits enjoy the red button where they can choose a certain driver to ride onboard with, and possibly SkySports as well? Is there someplace online I can do this?

[imightbewrong]

The Bahrain qualifying unit (engine #1) expired way back in China FP. The Bahrain race unit (engine #2) expired today.

No. This was an engine that was replaced during Bahrain, but wasn't used, and hasn't been used since according to the rules except possibly in free practice. That, in reality, is engine number 1.

It might well have been the engine that expired today but we don't get to know what engines they use in free practice. If it was the engine that was replaced at Bahrain today then in that case the engine situation is worse since that was the only low mileage unit left.

The Monza engine isn't anywhere close to its mileage limit, so it's irrelevent.

It is not an engine they will want to use several races in a row, and they'd rather not use an engine at all that has been stressed at Monza. The mileage itself is not the only consideration there.

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill regarding Alonso's engine siutation

No, it's really not. That's why they're talking about wheeling out the replaced low mileage Bahrain engine for Abu Dhabi. However, he could have lost that today.

The other joker is the 'reliability' changes Ferrari made that boosted their power by 15 hp. They made those changes to free engines after Malaysia I think and under the rules previous units could not be modified.

I'm sorry, but you are simply not right. The Bahrain engine that was replaced before race blew up in china:

"I am not worried," he said. "We lost an engine today, which is never a good thing, we would like to have all the engines perfectly OK. We knew that this engine was a little bit damaged after Bahrain, it was the one we replaced in Bahrain before the race so we are not too worried.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ap ... lure-china

And the engine that blew up yesterday was a very high-mileage engine, probably the race engine from Bahrain.

"This morning the programme was already to change the engine between the two sessions, we used a very, very old engine this morning, we missed that change for three laps, it was only three more laps to go to have everything still according to plan, and fingers crossed there are plenty of engines to use between now and Abu Dhabi," said Alonso.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87952

[Gerhard Berger]

No. This was an engine that was replaced during Bahrain, but wasn't used, and hasn't been used since according to the rules except possibly in free practice. That, in reality, is engine number 1.

Like i said, it expired in China FP.

It might well have been the engine that expired today but we don't get to know what engines they use in free practice. If it was the engine that was replaced at Bahrain today then in that case the engine situation is worse since that was the only low mileage unit left.

La Sexta said it was Engine #2. It wasn't a problem at all. They were planning to replace that engine anyway.

It is not an engine they will want to use several races in a row, and they'd rather not use an engine at all that has been stressed at Monza. The mileage itself is not the only consideration there.

They have no option. All other engines are either expired, or have completed 3 races.

No, it's really not. That's why they're talking about wheeling out the replaced low mileage Bahrain engine for Abu Dhabi. However, he could have lost that today.

Please read my posts more carefully otherwise we will continue to go round in circles. I've already told you that the engine you are referring to expired in China FP.

The other joker is the 'reliability' changes Ferrari made that boosted their power by 15 hp. They made those changes to free engines after Malaysia I think and under the rules previous units could not be modified.

That is correct. The old spec engines could not be modified and they have all expired now. The new spec engines have all done 3 races each and have had no problems whatsoever.

[ESPImperium]

Ferarri, MyLotusRacing and Mike Gascoyne all reporting it will be a wet FP3, with a lottery for Quali.

[Miguel]

Ferarri, MyLotusRacing and Mike Gascoyne all reporting it will be a wet FP3, with a lottery for Quali.

I checked weather.com (by no means the most reliable place, according to my experience) and they were giving 100% heavy rain from 10:00 to 16:00 local time in Sao Paulo. Of course, they can get it wrong, but even intermittent drizzle would turn FP3 and the Qualy into unexpected results.

Regarding the coverage, in Spain La Sexta doesn't broadcast FP1 and FP2, although FP3 is usually broadcast. The qualy and the race have always been shown since 2003, AFAIK. And yes, this includes the 2005 USGP.

[PlatinumZealot]

Time to fire up my streaming sites

[Miguel]

I know this is no place for fanboi yingyang, but I'll go ahead:

Marc Gene is saying right now, live on TV, that although the main straight is hard on the engine, the lower air pressure makes it less stressful for the engine. He also said the engines lose slightly over 10%. In any case, I think that estimate is way too high, although I know basically nothing about engines.

[godlameroso]

is the track drying at all?

N.M. the barometric pressure is rising, I have a feeling that Q3 will be dry enough to run on slicks

[Mr Alcatraz]

It appears to be

[zeph]

Link for streaming? Anyone? PM please.

[godlameroso]

Kubica fastest on wet FP3

[ringo]

No last minute runs for Alonso, Massa & Webber. Must be very confident in the car.
Mclaren could be on pole with the hi down force setup, but the race could be another thing.