During the last test in Barcelona - yes.raymondu999 wrote:Interesting. All the engines have 3 teams each, but the Cossie has half the mileage of the Ferrari?
However they did better considering all four pre-season test.
During the last test in Barcelona - yes.raymondu999 wrote:Interesting. All the engines have 3 teams each, but the Cossie has half the mileage of the Ferrari?
Whats so interesting, HRT are not there to help rack up miles so its just normal.raymondu999 wrote:Interesting. All the engines have 3 teams each, but the Cossie has half the mileage of the Ferrari?
hehehe I am a RF1 fan too and I have faith in them...JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:On what basis would anyone put Renault ahead of Mercedes?
They showed less speed and less consistency then the Merc, especially the final test.
In all of the testing times, one car had the most consistent (within .5 secs) 14 lap run and stopped without changing tires, went back out for three laps running 1 sec faster than the previous 14 laps.FrukostScones wrote:AutoMotorUndSport.de reports that there are rumors that Alonso carried on his quick 1.21,614 lap only 15Kg of fuel and ran on supersoft tyres!!!!
But in terms of tyre conservation the Ferrari is one of the best or the best.
yes I noticed that. I found that a bit strange. I think the car was lighter than the 1.29 times it ran showed.speedsense wrote:In all of the testing times, one car had the most consistent (within .5 secs) 14 lap run and stopped without changing tires, went back out for three laps running 1 sec faster than the previous 14 laps.FrukostScones wrote:AutoMotorUndSport.de reports that there are rumors that Alonso carried on his quick 1.21,614 lap only 15Kg of fuel and ran on supersoft tyres!!!!
But in terms of tyre conservation the Ferrari is one of the best or the best.
That was Barichello in the Williams.... no other car tested with such consistency or with no drop off in laptime...IMHO
On the same day, Webber ran a Low 22.. then switched tires and did a long run (12 or 13 laps), within an hour of Barichello's run... Webber did 28.5, couple high 28,s five or six high 29's then dropped to 32's and 33's on the last four laps.FrukostScones wrote:yes I noticed that. I found that a bit strange. I think the car was lighter than the 1.29 times it ran showed.speedsense wrote:In all of the testing times, one car had the most consistent (within .5 secs) 14 lap run and stopped without changing tires, went back out for three laps running 1 sec faster than the previous 14 laps.FrukostScones wrote:AutoMotorUndSport.de reports that there are rumors that Alonso carried on his quick 1.21,614 lap only 15Kg of fuel and ran on supersoft tyres!!!!
But in terms of tyre conservation the Ferrari is one of the best or the best.
That was Barichello in the Williams.... no other car tested with such consistency or with no drop off in laptime...IMHO
Or maybe Williams found the key!
Alonso Barrichello Schuey 01:29.630 01:30.751 01:30.456 01:29.322 01:30.227 01:30.657 01:29.339 01:31.025 01:31.326 01:29.675 01:31.079 01:31.206 01:29.591 01:31.914 01:31.526 01:30.117 01:31.989 01:31.998 01:30.020 01:32.178 01:32.517 01:30.462 01:32.186 01:33.481 Pit__Stop 01:32.759 01:33.516 Pit__Stop 01:33.523 01:33.564 01:28.849 Pit__Stop 01:33.685 01:28.950 Pit__Stop 01:33.803 01:28.653 01:31.309 01:34.814 01:29.051 01:32.050 Pit__Stop 01:29.307 01:31.651 Pit__Stop 01:30.796 01:31.765 01:31.982 01:29.559 01:31.636 01:32.432 01:30.026 01:31.429 01:32.227 01:30.386 01:31.731 01:31.331 01:30.102 01:31.525 01:31.714 01:30.767 01:31.536 01:31.782 01:30.743 01:31.414 01:31.785 01:30.920 01:31.458 01:31.764 Pit__Stop 01:31.600 01:32.312 Pit__Stop 01:31.942 01:32.524 01:27.255 01:32.365 01:32.361 01:28.427 Pit__Stop 01:32.878 01:27.470 Pit__Stop 01:33.076 01:28.143 01:30.864 Pit__Stop 01:30.392 01:30.844 Pit__Stop 01:27.907 01:31.644 01:29.095 01:28.110 01:30.799 01:29.803 01:28.005 01:30.904 01:30.247 01:28.441 01:30.993 01:30.220 01:28.676 01:31.060 01:30.629 01:28.796 01:31.914 01:30.268 01:29.163 01:30.751 01:30.150 Pit__Stop 01:30.965 01:31.079 Pit__Stop 01:31.210 01:30.578 01:27.320 01:31.990 01:31.077 01:27.477 Pit__Stop 01:30.650 01:49.591 Pit__Stop 01:30.426 01:56.505 01:29.952 01:30.473 01:27.617 01:30.020 01:30.937 01:27.205 01:29.468 01:31.015 01:27.623 01:29.618 01:31.870 01:27.674 01:31.070 Pit__Stop 01:27.897 01:30.083 Pit__Stop 01:28.030 01:30.162 01:27.569 Pit__Stop 01:29.828 01:28.356 Pit__Stop 01:30.235 01:28.644 01:25.510 01:30.317 01:28.706 01:25.958 01:30.690 01:28.400 Red Flag 01:31.000 01:28.435 01:25.958 Pit__Stop 01:29.407 01:26.716 Pit__Stop 01:31.284 01:26.151 01:29.786 01:30.283 01:26.094 01:29.631 01:29.830 01:26.450 01:28.265 01:29.885 01:26.761 01:28.217 01:30.545 01:26.961 01:28.458 01:30.232 01:26.915 01:28.447 --------- 01:27.186 01:28.653 --------- --------- 01:28.094 ---------
So if he did not change the tires, where did this one second improvement come from? Same tires, almost same fuel load, etc.. Interesting.....speedsense wrote: In all of the testing times, one car had the most consistent (within .5 secs) 14 lap run and stopped without changing tires, went back out for three laps running 1 sec faster than the previous 14 laps.
That was Barichello in the Williams.... no other car tested with such consistency or with no drop off in laptime...IMHO
Exactly. I was thinking that they would have to be on different compounds, and cars that treat tyres differently too. I don't think that driver alone and driver technique can make enough of a difference to allow an extra stop etc. Not to mention the pace difference required to allow additional stopsmarcush. wrote:In the prost days there was no regulatory tyre stop .And for example Neweys Leytonhouse in the hands of Capelli and Gugelmin somehow managed to go the whole distance without stopping in Le Castellet when all others needed 1 or more stops.When the others realised it was already too late.
thanks to mechanical glitches both ran into problems and Prost won.So also back then it was not just driver but also a car characteristic determining the life of the tyres .Ferrari was famous for gentle tyre use in those days.