Following the demotion of Ron Dennis as the company's chief, McLaren Technology Group has announced that Zak Brown has accepted the position of Executive Director. The former McLaren F1 driver is set to start work in December.
FRIC is banned but hydraulic interlinked elements for front and rear as separate units are used.henry wrote:J-damper, known also as inerters is still allowed and used today. What was banned was the Tuned Mass Damper, which is a different thing.diffuser wrote:J-Damper and Fric have both been outlawed.FW17 wrote:I hope J-Damper part 2 is in the making to counter Merc's hydraulic linked suspension [-o<
So you think after 2015 we should have expected McHonda to fight Ferrari this season? Sorry but that´s far from real.Pany wrote:This double point finish is not good result. Championship is about to end; after 2 years we are fighting with Williams, Force India and Toro Rosso. We should be constantly after Ferrari if the team target is winning races in 2017. Im afraid my hopes are more and more in deception. With this growth rate next year the maximum target could be (if everything goes well) to compete with Ferrari and Williams for the 3° place. New chassis rules are bullshit; very little will change in terms of team performance dfferences. Am I wrong? hope somebody makes me change mind.
) about McHonda is 2015 perfomance. It was so poor they obviously couldn´t expect any miracle for 2016, so they should have focused in 2017 rules since 2016 winter and take the whole 2016 season as a 2017 pre-season testing. I agree with this. As much as I hold out hope that the new regs will give them a chance to fight on a level playing field (espec with in-season development), I think that 2018 is the year to judge them.Andres125sx wrote:So you think after 2015 we should have expected McHonda to fight Ferrari this season? Sorry but that´s far from real.Pany wrote:This double point finish is not good result. Championship is about to end; after 2 years we are fighting with Williams, Force India and Toro Rosso. We should be constantly after Ferrari if the team target is winning races in 2017. Im afraid my hopes are more and more in deception. With this growth rate next year the maximum target could be (if everything goes well) to compete with Ferrari and Williams for the 3° place. New chassis rules are bullshit; very little will change in terms of team performance dfferences. Am I wrong? hope somebody makes me change mind.
If you analyse it as "it is McHonda so they should be fighting Ferrari at least", you´re ignoring reality. McHonda was fighting to enter Q2 past season. That´s the season to bash them, it was deserved. But this season, due to the restrictive token system, they were condemned. No manufacturer can do magic, their base PU (2015) was a dog, and they´re heavily restricted about what can they modify in that PU, so IMHO they did an awesome job this season. I find it amazing how much they improved considering the base they had and the restrictions.
Take into account 2016 McHonda perfomance would have give them pole position in 2015 grid at many GPs. Their step forward has been amazing, but this technology is so new every manufacturer make big steps forward each season so McHonda step forward does not look as big as it really is.
And that´s the part wich makes me afraid about next season. All manufacturers did a big step forward in 2016, so I expect a similar step forward for next season, specially considering there´s no more token restriction. Obviously Honda will do a big step forward again but, will that step forward be significantly higher than their competitors? Nobody will know until 2017 pre-season testing.
About the new aero regs, I know enough about aero to state nothing about aero can be predicted beforehand by us fans. Aero, airflows, interaction between aero elements (wings, bargeboards, deflectors, diffuser...) is all too complicated to predict how new rules will affect each team design. If I was forced to make a bet, I´d bet for a revolution, in the sense that 2016 perfomance order will change dramatically in 2017.
BTW, the reason wich keeps me optimistic (not that difficult I must admit
No other top team could give up about 2016 as soon as McHonda, and that should show up in 2017
Well that is hard to tell, but there were few moments when Mclaren Honda & Mobil announced that their updates will bring more HP like the fuel update early in the season where they've said that it will bring double digit HP increase and this forum speculated with the number of 15-20 HP, anything else is just a wild guess. What is certain is that they've fixed their deployment which is now at the level of the rest or the best if you can take Button's quote to the letter.Sayeman wrote:Anyone has any info on how much this new updated PU is faster than the one they started the year with in Australia?
Considering all the updates were targeted for efficiency rather than Horsepower, i wonder if they have gained any extra power at all?
There are usually big differences between the reality and what Marca and AS claim but I hope they are right this time. The performance in Malaysia was encouraging and a p5-7 should be possible.GoranF1 wrote:If the new PU is not better why would they say this?
http://motor.as.com/motor/2016/10/03/fo ... 63670.html
Dudes, every car has had a J damer for years. Its an inerter.diffuser wrote:J-Damper and Fric have both been outlawed.FW17 wrote:I hope J-Damper part 2 is in the making to counter Merc's hydraulic linked suspension [-o<
He is absolutely mighty on the first lap. He's notably better than most on heavy fuel
The starts have been good all year, even last year they had a great starts so if they manage good Qualy till end of the season we can expect repeat of Button's Austria first few laps which was special to see after so long time starting at the back of the grid.Alonso Fan wrote:He is absolutely mighty on the first lap. He's notably better than most on heavy fuel
I take a few leafs from him and also try round the outside when sim racing. It actually works pretty well. Everyone bunches up on the racing line and the inside trying not to bang into each other and you just go round the outside of about 5 people
