Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

[JimClarkFan]

How much of this 2.1 seconds is down to Honda?

Boullier said in Sky that Honda power is back to Australia specs so I would say big percentage

What the actual f***

Was there a reason given as to why?

I thought the engine was supposed to be improved this race?

Makes all the other improvements completely pointless

[GoranF1]

How much of this 2.1 seconds is down to Honda?

Boullier said in Sky that Honda power is back to Australia specs so I would say big percentage

Maybe this means Canada tokens failed,and they will now move in different direction whit remaining tokens.

[GoranF1]

https://vid.me/Tr0e

[damager21]

https://vid.me/Tr0e

This is a bit surprising because in Melbourne they were 5 secs off the pace and today Alonso was 2.1 secs so if they reverted to Melbourne spec then ideally they should have been much slower.

Also, I am not sure if the new upgrades made a huge difference because in Q1 Alonso was 0.2 secs quicker than Button. Also in Q2 Alonso was 2.1 secs slower than the best car. Ideally I would have hoped that McLaren would have been 1.5 secs off the pace by making up 0.5 secs with this upgrade. With new engine taken up both by Alonso and Button and if it indeed is Melbourne spec then they will use the same engine in Silverstone. No way they can score points with that.

Another reason why they may have turned down the power is to ensure they dont have a double DNF. They need more data from both the cars and with 25 place grid penalty they will easily be 2 to 3 laps down so why not focus on testing and collecting as much data from the car to improve it.

[ChrisM40]

This has gone from hopeful to sad, to disappointing to embarrassing, and now on to shameful. The whole team just looks stunned and numb at this point.

[i70q7m7ghw]

I think these aero upgrades can only do so much in terms of lap time. If the engine is down on power, you'll hit a point where it doesn't matter how much downforce you add, engine won't be able to push the car through the corners quick enough to make use of the additional downforce.

[GoranF1]

https://vid.me/Tr0e

This is a bit surprising because in Melbourne they were 5 secs off the pace and today Alonso was 2.1 secs so if they reverted to Melbourne spec then ideally they should have been much slower.

Also, I am not sure if the new upgrades made a huge difference because in Q1 Alonso was 0.2 secs quicker than Button. Also in Q2 Alonso was 2.1 secs slower than the best car. Ideally I would have hoped that McLaren would have been 1.5 secs off the pace by making up 0.5 secs with this upgrade. With new engine taken up both by Alonso and Button and if it indeed is Melbourne spec then they will use the same engine in Silverstone. No way they can score points with that.

Another reason why they may have turned down the power is to ensure they dont have a double DNF. They need more data from both the cars and with 25 place grid penalty they will easily be 2 to 3 laps down so why not focus on testing and collecting as much data from the car to improve it.

Alonso was very positive after quali and said all of the upgrades worked fine,he also said after practice yesterday that he has new engine on,and it's better to run it in "safe mod".
The fact that he was only 2 tents faster than Jenson,well i will have to be honest now and say all though i am a bigg Fernando fan,Button did look a bit faster to me in Q all year long,i guess that is down to his experience whit the team and i sure Alonso will beat him in regular basis next year when they figt for title!
Despite poor Q end result for both cars,this seemd to be first Q of the year when both cars occasionally flashed near top of time table which is good.
Honda needs to bring those 7 tokens ASAP that's for sure. #progress

[PlatinumZealot]

He was 8 tenths to 1.2 seconds faster in FP3 so there is much to be optimistic about.

[ferkan]

This is turning into embarasment at this point. I HIGHLY doubt they went back to Australia PU settings, this is power track and they are 2+ seconds adrift. I dont think they will do anything until next year, just seems like Honda engine at the back is underpowered, thirsty and unreliable. Hard to fix that with 7 tokens when they dont even know what to fix...

[GoranF1]

This is turning into embarasment at this point. I HIGHLY doubt they went back to Australia PU settings, this is power track and they are 2+ seconds adrift. I dont think they will do anything until next year, just seems like Honda engine at the back is underpowered, thirsty and unreliable. Hard to fix that with 7 tokens when they dont even know what to fix...

Hey Ferkan....Ferrari is on AVG in the last 5-6 years around 0.5 down on various pole setters,same as today more or less!
So Alonso's decision to leave still stands,as being 2nd or 34th is the same thing!
Honda knows what they are doing better then you do for sure!
Sorry for off-topic

[GoranF1]

He was 8 tenths to 1.2 seconds faster in FP3 so there is much to be optimistic about.

he wasn't,he was 3 tents slower actually!?

[F1NAC]

This is turning into embarasment at this point. I HIGHLY doubt they went back to Australia PU settings, this is power track and they are 2+ seconds adrift. I dont think they will do anything until next year, just seems like Honda engine at the back is underpowered, thirsty and unreliable. Hard to fix that with 7 tokens when they dont even know what to fix...

Hey Ferkan....Ferrari is on AVG in the last 5-6 years around 0.5 down on various pole setters,same as today more or less!
So Alonso's decision to leave still stands,as being 2nd or 34th is the same thing!
Honda knows what they are doing better then you do for sure!
Sorry for off-topic

better that than having negative trend since 2013. Ferrari at least has better base for next season

[McMrocks]

Watching the video above, have they converted back to the Melbourne spec engine or just turned the power down to the Melbourne spec level?

[shady]

Watching the video above, have they converted back to the Melbourne spec engine or just turned the power down to the Melbourne spec level?

Sounds like power level. 'Safe mode' according to alonso. Given FP1 for both drivers.

[ferkan]

This is turning into embarasment at this point. I HIGHLY doubt they went back to Australia PU settings, this is power track and they are 2+ seconds adrift. I dont think they will do anything until next year, just seems like Honda engine at the back is underpowered, thirsty and unreliable. Hard to fix that with 7 tokens when they dont even know what to fix...

Hey Ferkan....Ferrari is on AVG in the last 5-6 years around 0.5 down on various pole setters,same as today more or less!
So Alonso's decision to leave still stands,as being 2nd or 34th is the same thing!
Honda knows what they are doing better then you do for sure!
Sorry for off-topic

What does Ferrari have to do with McLaren Honda being embarasingly incompetent? It is the same thing, but so is being at home watching it on telly and being 18th. Why is he even on the track?