Mercedes AMG F1 W03

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marcush. wrote:the schumacher pics indicate he is running a lot less Anti-ackerman here in Montecarlo ...compared to the reference pic...
You referring to this photo?

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Maybe it is just the slowest and tightest corner which they are on full lock maybe? Or the angle of the picture?

And the Ackerman have less turn in that anti Ackerman , at a place like Monaco you surely need more anti Ackerman. Is it not?

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Are F1 steerings linear throughout the range?

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Nothing in tech regs I can find, maybe in a TD, but.
Le FIA wrote:10.4 Steering :
10.4.1 Any steering system which permits the re-alignment of more than two wheels is not
permitted.
10.4.2 Power assisted steering systems may not be electronically controlled or electrically powered. No such system may carry out any function other than reduce the physical effort required to steer the car.
10.4.3 No part of the steering wheel or column, nor any part fitted to them, may be closer to the driver than a plane formed by the entire rear edge of the steering wheel rim. All parts fixed to the steering wheel must be fitted in such a way as to minimise the risk of injury in the event of a driver’s head making contact with any part of the wheel assembly.
10.4.4 The steering wheel, steering column and steering rack assembly must pass an impact test, details of the test procedure may be found in Article 16.6.
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Monaco | Radiators and sidepods internals

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Source: formula1.com

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yes it was that picture I was referring to .It damn loóks like near parallel to me when a few pics above you can see severe Anti Ackerman (inside wheel has a lot less lock compared to outside wheel)

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In that second detail pic. Notice the bubblegum like substance filling the gap between the cabling and the aperture in the monocoque.

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scarbs wrote:In that second detail pic. Notice the bubblegum like substance filling the gap between the cabling and the aperture in the monocoque.
MacGuyver explosive gum?

Or an earthing element.......
More could have been done.
David Purley

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scarbs wrote:In that second detail pic. Notice the bubblegum like substance filling the gap between the cabling and the aperture in the monocoque.

jesus christ ,I had hoped nobody would have spotted that unsightly sort of attention to detail.. if one looks back to older pictures of the same area it was already present weeks ago.. so it´s a feature of the car and not a quick fix to a problem related to that particular chassis?

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DDRS piping is missing in the first picture?

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Any insights regarding whether todays qualifying performance was down to
1) DDRS allowing Mercedes to run a softer setup giving them a significant advantage in the middle sector or
2) a dropping track temperature playing into the hands of a Mercedes car which typically works the rears fairly hard, making it easier for them to get the rears up to optimum working temperature during the outlap?

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Ferraripilot wrote:
hardingfv32 wrote:
Ferraripilot wrote:.... The uprights for the tiny wing itself are positioned so to create a nozzle effect for air exiting beyond the beam wing. Brilliant idea as it creates more of a high pressure area to the underside of the main wing element.
Please expand, I don't understand wanting high pressure under the main wing.

Brian


Sorry, I got that backwards. Low pressure. Gin and F1tech don't mix
Gin doesn't mix with anything! :)
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JMN wrote:Any insights regarding whether todays qualifying performance was down to
1) DDRS allowing Mercedes to run a softer setup giving them a significant advantage in the middle sector or
2) a dropping track temperature playing into the hands of a Mercedes car which typically works the rears fairly hard, making it easier for them to get the rears up to optimum working temperature during the outlap?
I'd say it's due to the car's already excellent traction out of corners. This may be due to the suspected linked suspension. It keeps the car from squatting out of corners and diving into them. I don't think the DDRS would be worth much here because the other teams don't sacrifice their ride heights due to high downforce on long straights. Perhaps the cars were good, but because Monaco is such a driver dependant track as well, it really shows how good Nico and Schumacher are. I think it probably is a bit of all of the above.
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scarbs wrote:In that second detail pic. Notice the bubblegum like substance filling the gap between the cabling and the aperture in the monocoque.
I've seen that in the same area on other cars. Some sort of insulato maybe?
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dren wrote: I'd say it's due to the car's already excellent traction out of corners. This may be due to the suspected linked suspension.
To the best of my recollection the linked suspension is believed to be a feature that has been present on other top tier cars for quite a few years. It constituted a significant step forward for Mercedes, but does not set them apart from other regular Q3 cars.

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JMN wrote:
dren wrote:I'd say it's due to the car's already excellent traction out of corners. This may be due to the suspected linked suspension.
To the best of my recollection the linked suspension is believed to be a feature that has been present on other top tier cars for quite a few years. It constituted a significant step forward for Mercedes, but does not set them apart from other regular Q3 cars.
Not unless you inject mercury into the mix. Kidding! :mrgreen:

While everybody else was agog over the latest-&-greatest iteration of exhaust configs & front wings from other cars, Merc's car development efforts went by pretty much 'under the radar.' Did we miss spotting anything significant that made it possible for Merc to steal the qualifying thunder from Lotus, Ferrari & McLaren?? Or was it more a function of the team nailing the setup and the track conditions coming to them?