2012 Monaco GP - Monte Carlo

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I mean, look at how they were in Malaysia. Monaco is a lot more dangerous than somewhere like Sepang, and yet they were very gung ho with the safety gear in Sepang.
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You've lost me Ray :? I think your joke about the FIA went over my head :oops:
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I wasn't joking. Rather, I was commenting on the FIA's attitude lately.

The FIA lately have been extremely rain-averse. Conditions where we used to have wet racing we now have safety cars, and the wet weather safety cars of past years have now become red flags. For example Canada last year, when they did the safety car restart after the red flag, people were immediately peeling into the pits, because the track conditions were so dry. They were only on the wets because of regulations. Malaysia we still had a Toro Rosso being able to lap on inters, and most of the rest were driving on wets - but the safety car suddenly came out. I remember people peeling into the pits immediately after the safety car restart too, for inters.

If in such an open circuit the FIA sees fit to get people behind the safety car, God knows what they'll do in Monaco with walls in place of runoffs.
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:arrow: Renault Sport preview unique performance requirements for Monaco

A good reminder of the challenges from this weekend.
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raymondu999 wrote:I wasn't joking. Rather, I was commenting on the FIA's attitude lately.

The FIA lately have been extremely rain-averse. Conditions where we used to have wet racing we now have safety cars, and the wet weather safety cars of past years have now become red flags. For example Canada last year, when they did the safety car restart after the red flag, people were immediately peeling into the pits, because the track conditions were so dry. They were only on the wets because of regulations. Malaysia we still had a Toro Rosso being able to lap on inters, and most of the rest were driving on wets - but the safety car suddenly came out. I remember people peeling into the pits immediately after the safety car restart too, for inters.

If in such an open circuit the FIA sees fit to get people behind the safety car, God knows what they'll do in Monaco with walls in place of runoffs.
That's what I thought you meant, but you confused me with the part that sounded like you meant the FIA would send cars out on slicks in the rain.
Raymondu999 wrote:Even if it rains in the race, knowing the FIA - we'll still see only slicks
is a little confusing at am 2:00
Yes it is a sad state of affairs. I actually missed Canada because I had stayed up all night watching the 24 hours of Le Mans the night before, and just couldn't stay awake through the delay. :cry:
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Mr Alcatraz wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:I wasn't joking. Rather, I was commenting on the FIA's attitude lately.

The FIA lately have been extremely rain-averse. Conditions where we used to have wet racing we now have safety cars, and the wet weather safety cars of past years have now become red flags. For example Canada last year, when they did the safety car restart after the red flag, people were immediately peeling into the pits, because the track conditions were so dry. They were only on the wets because of regulations. Malaysia we still had a Toro Rosso being able to lap on inters, and most of the rest were driving on wets - but the safety car suddenly came out. I remember people peeling into the pits immediately after the safety car restart too, for inters.

If in such an open circuit the FIA sees fit to get people behind the safety car, God knows what they'll do in Monaco with walls in place of runoffs.
That's what I thought you meant, but you confused me with the part that sounded like you meant the FIA would send cars out on slicks in the rain.
Yes it is a sad state of affairs. I actually missed Canada because I had stayed up all night watching the 24 hours of Le Mans the night before, and just couldn't stay awake through the delay. :cry:
I think he meant that the track would be ready for slicks before the safety car came in.

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Yep. Beelsebob's got it :mrgreen:
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point of DRS-activation? (or detection?, picture says it is the (beginning) of start-finish?)
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well, this DRS signal is usually placed on the line where activation zone starts. And it is also said that DRS in Monaco would be same as last year...so that makes it the start of activation zone

btw, does someone have pictures of modified pit exit? They said that it would be wider this year to help cars that are joining on S/F line from pits to have higher speed

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I would say it's the start of the activation zone. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7366 ... co2011.jpg
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italian wrote:I would say it's the start of the activation zone. http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7366 ... co2011.jpg
yes, but it is earlier i think, your pic is 2011.
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rain forecast for the whole weekend.
So with Schumi scoring 0-1-0-1-0 I'm voting for him to qualify 9th, gethit in the first corner, limp around to the pits, and fromlst drive to a 10th for another 1 point.
Even if he qualifies onpole, gets demoted to 5th, he'll still end up just scraping the points due to bad luck.
I'm betting on him winning pole but 5th is not the place to win the race from. MAybe with the rain theres a chance...

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Raptor22 wrote:rain forecast for the whole weekend.
So with Schumi scoring 0-1-0-1-0 I'm voting for him to qualify 9th, gethit in the first corner, limp around to the pits, and fromlst drive to a 10th for another 1 point.
Even if he qualifies onpole, gets demoted to 5th, he'll still end up just scraping the points due to bad luck.
I'm betting on him winning pole but 5th is not the place to win the race from. MAybe with the rain theres a chance...
Or....he grabs pole, gets demoted to 5th, gets hit by....you guessed it, Grossjean, then he pits, gets a new front wing, then puts in one hell of a wet drive to overtake Button and then Alonso to win the race. Rosberg is content putting around in 5th place.

Schumacher then goes on to win the title and retires for good after three more victories: Spa, Suzuka & Monza. JET goes silent on the boards for a month. :)
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FrukostScones wrote:
yes, but it is earlier i think, your pic is 2011.
DRS zone for the Race. Detection point is T17 and Activation is exit of T19 (beginning of start finish straight)

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:
yes, but it is earlier i think, your pic is 2011.
DRS zone for the Race. Detection point is T17 and Activation is exit of T19 (beginning of start finish straight)
yes, but we have a picture and I want to know exact to the meter where that sign is positioned. Even with google I couldn't manage it.
It seems that the sign is really still in the turn(T19). So it several meters earlier than 2011.?!
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