2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 10 - 12

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Well these are really similar laps, quite impressive. I haven't been able to watch FP3 live so I'm going off of just telemetry.

* Start speed could be higher for Ferrari given how well it matches RBR at the finish line speed.
* Normally we've seen earlier braking for RBR, but now Checo is braking very late in a few critical points, very good braking performance. The question here is wether he's pushing the car a bit more or if RBR found something to improve braking performance compared to past races.
* T2 (600m) LEC brakes quite a bit early, in fact due to early speed difference and early T2 braking, Ferrari is almost +0.1s already in just 2 corners, traction however allows Ferrari to minimize the time loss.
* T8 (2800m) is the castle section, LEC remembers what it means to be stupid and decides to take it extremely easy, after having gained 0.2s between T2 and T8, he proceed to lose all of them in T8 alone.
* From right after T8 onwards the performance between the cars is very similar, slight gains in straight line for RBR and slight losses for RBR in corners.
* Yesterday I had commented on the porpoising of Ferrari that was punishing the straight line speed, and after Pirelli raised tyre pressure by 1psi, this issue seems gone. Straight speed traces are extremely close now, slight gain for RBR above 300kph suggesting a slightly less draggy car.
* Ferrari performance in the corners suggests that the PSI increase hasn't punished their traction too much.
* RBR, contrary to yesterday, is closer in S2 now even accounting for Charles T8, yesterday the gap was bigger so it seems RBR made some beneficial setup changes.
* RBR is now upshifting with the speed that one would expect, yesterday in FP2 they were upshifting much slower.

IMHO the real question mark here is the braking performance of the Ferrari, if they can brake as late as they did in Monaco, this is going to be their quali to lose.

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This telemetry compares the top 2 in the championship. As I mentioned in previous practice sessions don't read too much in the delta_time dotted line as it can be off by quite a bit, like here.

If I read this one I go back to seeing Ferrari better under braking, so it's either a confidence problem with Verstappen, unlikely IMHO since he's actually just great, or Max and Checo have basically taken a different approach here where Max didn't want to risk much in FP3 and took most braking easy, including T8 which he took just like LEC.

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Nothing too interesting here really, Sainz like Leclerc is taking S1 fairly easy on deployment, and is going a bit stronger in T8. Sainz however isn't gaining as much in the straights and in S2 in general, despite T8. So I think Checo has an edge here.

This is going to be a really close quali, a perfect lap is the only thing that will get you on pole as the cars are virtually identical in performance.

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15 min delay due to a 15 min delay earlier in the day.

In the context of how many people have just tuned in to watch, that is a bit of a joke

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djones wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 16:00
15 min delay due to a 15 min delay earlier in the day.

In the context of how many people have just tuned in to watch, that is a bit of a joke
A joke? People who are a little interested in F1 read before qualifying how everything went in FP3.
They also know that it is a rule that there must be 2 hours between FP3 and qualification.
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How do you manage to crash twice in one lap?

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lh13 wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 16:34
How do you manage to crash twice in one lap?
Being over your head?

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lh13 wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 16:34
How do you manage to crash twice in one lap?
Stayed out for a flying lap. Had flat spots too. Car just didnt look to turn. Gonna be a mega rush
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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At least we can have some RB/ Green RB floor comparison pics come tonight.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Vettel managed a mega lap when Lance busy in trashing car

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Wouter wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 16:20
djones wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 16:00
15 min delay due to a 15 min delay earlier in the day.

In the context of how many people have just tuned in to watch, that is a bit of a joke
A joke? People who are a little interested in F1 read before qualifying how everything went in FP3.
They also know that it is a rule that there must be 2 hours between FP3 and qualification.
Firstly, let's be honest, you did not know the 2 hours were mandatory, it's only because the commentators said that.

The majority of people watching won't have known about FP3 and also the majority of any new audience will have just been sitting wondering why on earth it's delayed 15 mins. So yeah, in terms of new fans and what will be the majority of fans, the 15 minutes delay was indeed a joke.

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Alonso making sure he got through to Q2

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Yeeeeaaah looking at the Alonso replay, I can't see how he needed to cause a yellow flag there.

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Ferrari easily through on used softs from Q1, so they will have a new set for the race.

edit: tyre info was wrong on live timing. Same as Red Bull in the end
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LH noted for going too slow. Possible penalty as being investigated. Possible penalties?
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chrisc90 wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 17:03
LH noted for going too slow. Possible penalty as being investigated. Possible penalties?
At least Russel helped and he passed to Q1.

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chrisc90 wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 17:03
LH noted for going too slow. Possible penalty as being investigated. Possible penalties?
Yeah this is definitely a penalty, slow driving for finding a tow and thus holding up Norris. Without the tow from Russell he would have been out.