Canadian GP 2010 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve

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I'm not so sure, Montreal is the powertrack of all powertracks, if Mercedes truly have 30 hp up on the Renault, as horner claims, RBR might not be where they wish to be after qualifying.
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raymondu999 wrote:Sorry if I sounded like I was baiting... but true and honest, I wasn't. P2 was a surprise though, I agree. Macca are generally kings of FP. But we know that Hamilton won on his first time here and he was on his way to another victory when he traded that victory for Raikkonen's diffuser.
Ray I dont know mate - for some reason ever since Ron Dennis was forced out of running this team theyve just not fired and thats not casting doubts on the current management its just a question you have to ask yourself
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xpensive wrote:I'm not so sure, Montreal is the powertrack of all powertracks, if Mercedes truly have 30 hp up on the Renault, as horner claims, RBR might not be where they wish to be after qualifying.
You may be right there X but gut feeling says RBR are on the money but --- happens as you know
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raceman wrote:Certainly, it's going to be a hell of a GP this year!


BTW, where the heck is Giblet with his pics???
I'm here but gave no computer. Today I am going to an Internet cafe to unload the nikon pics. I'll try to get some of the choice ones up.
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Yo Giblet, howz ya doin in Montreal? howz the F1 atmosphere there?? got some 'off-topic' and unusual photos?

If you could update us with the current happenings there, would be appreciated.

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Some observations I've made from watching FP at Canada...

General admition viewing is horrible in Canada, I have to apologize to Giblet for recommending it to him, the sightlines are terrible and they close off any good possible ones. Many people may have disliked the USGP @ Indy but it was fantastic for the viewers... Canada sucks.

Watched FP1 from turn 7, but mainly on the main straight just in front of Massa's pit. That Ferrari mechanic that jumped in front of Button is an idiot,everyone could see what was going to happen from a mile away, except for him, but hey we all make mistaks.

The pit lane is sunk lower than the track and makes it difficult to see anything going on in there.

One thing I picked upwhile watching from the main straight as that the FIF1's seemed extremely fast down the straight.

FP2 was much more interesting for me... walked down to the hairpin and found a "decent" place to watch... braking into the hairpin and through the corner and coming out...

First things first the Saubers were complete garbage through the hairpin, they did not get thru there cleanly not even once for the whole practice... it was sad to watch.

Vettel picked up the throttle out of the corner noticably earlier than Webber

Hamilton was harder into the corner and put the throttle down earlier than Button but it really didnt seem like it made him any faster... but you could clearlysee that Hamilton was pushing hard whereas Button was very smooth as he is usually called.

MS was trying different entry and braking points and Rosberg looked pretty good.

and the most interesting observation of practice was the very different line Alonso was taking into and out of the hairpin, He would diamond of the corner turning in later and harder than anyone else, much like Mario(and then later micheal) andretti was known to do at Nazereth speedway. I dont know why he was doing this and if it was workng for him but it was very noticeable.

light rain this morning, dont know if I'll be making it to the track, we'll see.

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Is wrote
Vettel picked up the throttle out of the corner noticably earlier than Webber

Hamilton was harder into the corner and put the throttle down earlier than Button but it really didnt seem like it made him any faster... but you could clearlysee that Hamilton was pushing hard whereas Button was very smooth as he is usually called.
Islamatron do you figure from that on track observation - that Webber & Button are possibly the two main contenders - because it looks like tyres will play a big part which is always an issue on this track
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Chap, i still think button will win this.

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Looking forward to qualifying (soon). The McLs seemed to be a bit out of focus in FP2, with LESS traction on a more rubbered-in course (?) Will be interesting to see if the McL techs can turn the pig's ear into a silk purse overnight. But qualifying may well bear ne resemblence to practice.

Hoping Alonso is competitive; if I had to bet, I'd say Webber or Button.
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Chaparral wrote:Is wrote
Vettel picked up the throttle out of the corner noticably earlier than Webber

Hamilton was harder into the corner and put the throttle down earlier than Button but it really didnt seem like it made him any faster... but you could clearlysee that Hamilton was pushing hard whereas Button was very smooth as he is usually called.
Islamatron do you figure from that on track observation - that Webber & Button are possibly the two main contenders - because it looks like tyres will play a big part which is always an issue on this track
Honestly I think it will come down to who can adapt the best/fastest to the changing track conditions, I really could not pick any particular driver out of the pack just watching my very limited view of the hairpin. Vettel looked good in the hairpin, so did Hamilton(sometimes when not over cooking it) but Webbo & Button were consistent, as was Massa & the Mercs and Alonso was doing his own thing there. Very hard to read anything from it and with the track wet now it may not even be worth reading into.

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Pole is so important that I cannot see anyone in qually going with anything other than softs, as usual. I see pit stops very early, maybe as early as lap 5, especially with the chance of a safety car situation on the first lap. Of course if that happens (good odds at Canada turn 1). Another alternative to consider is the possibility of rain, which throws the soft tires out of the equation entirely.

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BreezyRacer wrote:Pole is so important that I cannot see anyone in qually going with anything other than softs, as usual.
Disagree. Depending of track temperature a lot of cars might be faster on primes than on options. But we have FP3 coming up in 5 minutes and we will see more how things will unfold today.
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We now have six cars on track with Kobayashi leading. Strange that the top teams are still inactive with 30 minutes of FP3 remaining.

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Alonso setting fastest time and some seconds later Hamilton.Schumacher goes P4.
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We are down to 1:16,259 now on primes. The Merc engined cars are still ahead. McLaren leading.

Things may change for Red Bull and Ferrari when they switch to the options. But it looks like the low temps (22°C track) are not helpful to the options. Yesterday we had 27°C.

The Red Bulls take five or six laps to get the primes on temperature for fast laps.

Ron Dennis is on site with headphones in the garage.

Rosberg's car is in the garage with clutch problems. He misses the important work of FP3.
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Massa has hit the wall.

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