Lando needs to learn how to be a bit more diplomatic, he tends to be a bit unrefined. (for lack of a better word) It’s totally possible to not feel sorry for him but also not sound like you’re gloating. I mean he could easily say, “there’s no need for me to feel sorry for him, because he’ll be fine, the team is supporting him and he’s got a lot of experience driving and changing teams etc. I’m looking out for myself cause I’ve got to be prepared and expect him to improve, because I still want to be in front.”mwillems wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:15Lando Norris, champion of mental health issues says, he has no sympathy for Daniel and his struggles, he chose to move teams, knew what was involved. Life is tough sometimes, I'm not here to make him feel better about himself, so deal with it lol
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Lol... I guess people can read into it anyway they want and each individual bias will read it in a different way.Ground Effect wrote:Lando needs to learn how to be a bit more diplomatic, he tends to be a bit unrefined. (for lack of a better word) It’s totally possible to not feel sorry for him but also not sound like you’re gloating. I mean he could easily say, “there’s no need for me to feel sorry for him, because he’ll be fine, the team is supporting him and he’s got a lot of experience driving and changing teams etc. I’m looking out for myself cause I’ve got to be prepared and expect him to improve, because I still want to be in front.”mwillems wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:15Lando Norris, champion of mental health issues says, he has no sympathy for Daniel and his struggles, he chose to move teams, knew what was involved. Life is tough sometimes, I'm not here to make him feel better about himself, so deal with it lol
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I could be his PA!!
I get it, this is F1, it’s a tough and ruthless business. Lando isn’t here to babysit Daniel or anybody. But I found some unnecessary statements, which he could have done without saying and still gotten his point across. Did he say anything wrong? Probably not, could he have worded it better, especially as an English speaker? I’d say yes.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:53Lol... I guess people can read into it anyway they want and each individual bias will read it in a different way.Ground Effect wrote:Lando needs to learn how to be a bit more diplomatic, he tends to be a bit unrefined. (for lack of a better word) It’s totally possible to not feel sorry for him but also not sound like you’re gloating. I mean he could easily say, “there’s no need for me to feel sorry for him, because he’ll be fine, the team is supporting him and he’s got a lot of experience driving and changing teams etc. I’m looking out for myself cause I’ve got to be prepared and expect him to improve, because I still want to be in front.”mwillems wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:15Lando Norris, champion of mental health issues says, he has no sympathy for Daniel and his struggles, he chose to move teams, knew what was involved. Life is tough sometimes, I'm not here to make him feel better about himself, so deal with it lol
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I could be his PA!!
The other thing that happens with this type of “articles” is that the quotes are some times lacking context of the previous questions or what is actually been discussed, therefore making them more “sensational” and click bating.
I don’t see a problem with what he says and has nothing to do with “Mental Health”... If the question is, do you feel sorry for Daniel having a hard time adjusting to the Mclaren due to the change on teams? I would have answered the same way, no I don’t feel sorry for him... Driver’s know that there will be a period of adaptation when changing teams and when they do so when the regulations are stable, they will struggle even more compared to the ones that drove a very similar car the previous year.
On the other hand, the relationship between Lando and Daniel is yet to be build and wouldn’t surprise me for Lando to have his guard a little up right now after how everyone kind of dismiss him before Daniel arrived and expected to be mauled on track by him.
Lando and Daniel definitely don’t have the relationship that Lando and Carlos had, but that one was also build through time, both came to the team at the same time and their personalities may have meshed together faster.
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you work for the Mclaren F1 team?
He's not saying anything bad, he's just being blunt and rude, or as some would say, Verstappenesque.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:53Lol... I guess people can read into it anyway they want and each individual bias will read it in a different way.Ground Effect wrote:Lando needs to learn how to be a bit more diplomatic, he tends to be a bit unrefined. (for lack of a better word) It’s totally possible to not feel sorry for him but also not sound like you’re gloating. I mean he could easily say, “there’s no need for me to feel sorry for him, because he’ll be fine, the team is supporting him and he’s got a lot of experience driving and changing teams etc. I’m looking out for myself cause I’ve got to be prepared and expect him to improve, because I still want to be in front.”mwillems wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:15Lando Norris, champion of mental health issues says, he has no sympathy for Daniel and his struggles, he chose to move teams, knew what was involved. Life is tough sometimes, I'm not here to make him feel better about himself, so deal with it lol
https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-i-don ... n-ferrari/
I could be his PA!!
The other thing that happens with this type of “articles” is that the quotes are some times lacking context of the previous questions or what is actually been discussed, therefore making them more “sensational” and click bating.
I don’t see a problem with what he says and has nothing to do with “Mental Health”... If the question is, do you feel sorry for Daniel having a hard time adjusting to the Mclaren due to the change on teams? I would have answered the same way, no I don’t feel sorry for him... Driver’s know that there will be a period of adaptation when changing teams and when they do so when the regulations are stable, they will struggle even more compared to the ones that drove a very similar car the previous year.
On the other hand, the relationship between Lando and Daniel is yet to be build and wouldn’t surprise me for Lando to have his guard a little up right now after how everyone kind of dismiss him before Daniel arrived and expected to be mauled on track by him.
Lando and Daniel definitely don’t have the relationship that Lando and Carlos had, but that one was also build through time, both came to the team at the same time and their personalities may have meshed together faster.
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Give me a M... give me a C......
I can’t argue that... He could have said it differently, he could have meant something else... Or simply, he was caught at a bad time and wasn’t having a good day.Ground Effect wrote:I get it, this is F1, it’s a tough and ruthless business. Lando isn’t here to babysit Daniel or anybody. But I found some unnecessary statements, which he could have done without saying and still gotten his point across. Did he say anything wrong? Probably not, could he have worded it better, especially as an English speaker? I’d say yes.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:53Lol... I guess people can read into it anyway they want and each individual bias will read it in a different way.Ground Effect wrote: Lando needs to learn how to be a bit more diplomatic, he tends to be a bit unrefined. (for lack of a better word) It’s totally possible to not feel sorry for him but also not sound like you’re gloating. I mean he could easily say, “there’s no need for me to feel sorry for him, because he’ll be fine, the team is supporting him and he’s got a lot of experience driving and changing teams etc. I’m looking out for myself cause I’ve got to be prepared and expect him to improve, because I still want to be in front.”
I could be his PA!!
The other thing that happens with this type of “articles” is that the quotes are some times lacking context of the previous questions or what is actually been discussed, therefore making them more “sensational” and click bating.
I don’t see a problem with what he says and has nothing to do with “Mental Health”... If the question is, do you feel sorry for Daniel having a hard time adjusting to the Mclaren due to the change on teams? I would have answered the same way, no I don’t feel sorry for him... Driver’s know that there will be a period of adaptation when changing teams and when they do so when the regulations are stable, they will struggle even more compared to the ones that drove a very similar car the previous year.
On the other hand, the relationship between Lando and Daniel is yet to be build and wouldn’t surprise me for Lando to have his guard a little up right now after how everyone kind of dismiss him before Daniel arrived and expected to be mauled on track by him.
Lando and Daniel definitely don’t have the relationship that Lando and Carlos had, but that one was also build through time, both came to the team at the same time and their personalities may have meshed together faster.
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He will get there eventually but I don’t have sympathy for someone if they are struggling or finding it tough. That’s just the way it is in life sometimes and I’m sure other drivers are having the same thing.”
I think he could have left out the part in bold, makes it sound like a general statement about his feelings about people who struggle, not just Ricciardo.
I’m not disregarding your opinion at all... Everyone has one and everyone is entitled to one.mwillems wrote:He's not saying anything bad, he's just being blunt and rude, or as some would say, Verstappenesque.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:53Lol... I guess people can read into it anyway they want and each individual bias will read it in a different way.Ground Effect wrote: Lando needs to learn how to be a bit more diplomatic, he tends to be a bit unrefined. (for lack of a better word) It’s totally possible to not feel sorry for him but also not sound like you’re gloating. I mean he could easily say, “there’s no need for me to feel sorry for him, because he’ll be fine, the team is supporting him and he’s got a lot of experience driving and changing teams etc. I’m looking out for myself cause I’ve got to be prepared and expect him to improve, because I still want to be in front.”
I could be his PA!!
The other thing that happens with this type of “articles” is that the quotes are some times lacking context of the previous questions or what is actually been discussed, therefore making them more “sensational” and click bating.
I don’t see a problem with what he says and has nothing to do with “Mental Health”... If the question is, do you feel sorry for Daniel having a hard time adjusting to the Mclaren due to the change on teams? I would have answered the same way, no I don’t feel sorry for him... Driver’s know that there will be a period of adaptation when changing teams and when they do so when the regulations are stable, they will struggle even more compared to the ones that drove a very similar car the previous year.
On the other hand, the relationship between Lando and Daniel is yet to be build and wouldn’t surprise me for Lando to have his guard a little up right now after how everyone kind of dismiss him before Daniel arrived and expected to be mauled on track by him.
Lando and Daniel definitely don’t have the relationship that Lando and Carlos had, but that one was also build through time, both came to the team at the same time and their personalities may have meshed together faster.
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The level of detail for how little he regards Daniels struggles is not needed in my opinion. Not sportsmanlike.
I personally found the comments a little childish and more than anything, if Daniel comes good I suspect he'll be ready to apply the pressure on Lando when Lando is struggling, so not very productive or smart.
But context is king and I dont know if he was misinterpreted.
You're right about perspective, I'm well aware there are many, but I don't see that I shouldn't share mine like you share yours
You're right, I do want to see that on the track. I respect Max, but he appears to be a complete d*ck of person when interviewed. With respects to the other drivers, I'm sure they weren't sorry, but you don't see them rubbing it in like that unless there is bad blood. Hamilton on the other hand is extremely graceful in his dominance.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 23:51I’m not disregarding your opinion at all... Everyone has one and everyone is entitled to one.mwillems wrote:He's not saying anything bad, he's just being blunt and rude, or as some would say, Verstappenesque.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 20:53
Lol... I guess people can read into it anyway they want and each individual bias will read it in a different way.
The other thing that happens with this type of “articles” is that the quotes are some times lacking context of the previous questions or what is actually been discussed, therefore making them more “sensational” and click bating.
I don’t see a problem with what he says and has nothing to do with “Mental Health”... If the question is, do you feel sorry for Daniel having a hard time adjusting to the Mclaren due to the change on teams? I would have answered the same way, no I don’t feel sorry for him... Driver’s know that there will be a period of adaptation when changing teams and when they do so when the regulations are stable, they will struggle even more compared to the ones that drove a very similar car the previous year.
On the other hand, the relationship between Lando and Daniel is yet to be build and wouldn’t surprise me for Lando to have his guard a little up right now after how everyone kind of dismiss him before Daniel arrived and expected to be mauled on track by him.
Lando and Daniel definitely don’t have the relationship that Lando and Carlos had, but that one was also build through time, both came to the team at the same time and their personalities may have meshed together faster.
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The level of detail for how little he regards Daniels struggles is not needed in my opinion. Not sportsmanlike.
I personally found the comments a little childish and more than anything, if Daniel comes good I suspect he'll be ready to apply the pressure on Lando when Lando is struggling, so not very productive or smart.
But context is king and I dont know if he was misinterpreted.
You're right about perspective, I'm well aware there are many, but I don't see that I shouldn't share mine like you share yours
The one thing in your comment that did caught my attention though is the part regarding Daniel been ready to apply pressure to Lando if he starts struggling... That’s going to happen regardless of what Lando may say.
Your most important rival in F1 is your teammate... You are both in the same car, same resources, etc... That’s the one driver you need to make sure you beat!
Not long ago, we were asking from Lando to be more ruthless, more aggressive (at the track of course), that he was “too nice”... Suddenly he shows a little bit of it (although I still don’t think his answer was aggressive) and now we are criticizing it.
In regards to the comment been childish... It’s your opinion, no arguing there... But let’s keep in mind that he is indeed still a kid (22 years old)... I can’t fathom having to be super careful about everything I said and having every statement scrutinized while I was that age... Hell, I’m twice his age and still struggle when I have had to make public statements making sure that they are politically correct.
Finally, I’m sure that if the same question would be asked around the paddock, unless it is a “veteran” speaking about a “rookie”, most would answer the same way... Lewis isn’t sorry for Bottas and his struggles, Max wasn’t sorry for Gasly or Albon and so on... If there is one thing that I take from Lando’s comments is that he not only respects Daniel, but that he acknowledges that Daniel may have the upper hand on him and he (Lando) is the underdog in this fight.
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I guess that been one of the veterans in the sport, a 7 time world champion, current holder of the record for pole positions and wins, in the most dominant car of recent history, with a teammate that hasn’t been able to really bring the fight to you and if not consider the GOAT, most will put you at least in the list of one of them and with probably a few more seasons left in the sport... Makes it a little bit easier to be graciousmwillems wrote:You're right, I do want to see that on the track. I respect Max, but he appears to be a complete d*ck of person when interviewed. With respects to the other drivers, I'm sure they weren't sorry, but you don't see them rubbing it in like that unless there is bad blood. Hamilton on the other hand is extremely graceful in his dominance.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 23:51I’m not disregarding your opinion at all... Everyone has one and everyone is entitled to one.mwillems wrote: He's not saying anything bad, he's just being blunt and rude, or as some would say, Verstappenesque.
The level of detail for how little he regards Daniels struggles is not needed in my opinion. Not sportsmanlike.
I personally found the comments a little childish and more than anything, if Daniel comes good I suspect he'll be ready to apply the pressure on Lando when Lando is struggling, so not very productive or smart.
But context is king and I dont know if he was misinterpreted.
You're right about perspective, I'm well aware there are many, but I don't see that I shouldn't share mine like you share yours
The one thing in your comment that did caught my attention though is the part regarding Daniel been ready to apply pressure to Lando if he starts struggling... That’s going to happen regardless of what Lando may say.
Your most important rival in F1 is your teammate... You are both in the same car, same resources, etc... That’s the one driver you need to make sure you beat!
Not long ago, we were asking from Lando to be more ruthless, more aggressive (at the track of course), that he was “too nice”... Suddenly he shows a little bit of it (although I still don’t think his answer was aggressive) and now we are criticizing it.
In regards to the comment been childish... It’s your opinion, no arguing there... But let’s keep in mind that he is indeed still a kid (22 years old)... I can’t fathom having to be super careful about everything I said and having every statement scrutinized while I was that age... Hell, I’m twice his age and still struggle when I have had to make public statements making sure that they are politically correct.
Finally, I’m sure that if the same question would be asked around the paddock, unless it is a “veteran” speaking about a “rookie”, most would answer the same way... Lewis isn’t sorry for Bottas and his struggles, Max wasn’t sorry for Gasly or Albon and so on... If there is one thing that I take from Lando’s comments is that he not only respects Daniel, but that he acknowledges that Daniel may have the upper hand on him and he (Lando) is the underdog in this fight.
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I do indeed want elbows and aggression and I want to see a more aggressive Lando, but yeah I feel this was poorly judged, obnoxious and more likely to come and bite Lando on the bum than it will do anything to help him. I don't think you need to be obnoxious to be ruthless. Hamilton is ruthless, utterly ruthless on the track, so you don't need that kind of voice to have aggression.
He is 22 and still a kid. Surrounded by media folks to advise him, coached on how to speak to the press... but what jus elevates it is that it is so out of character for him and also given his recent strong support of Mind, it just feels out of kilter and hope it isn't a sign of things to come.
I can. He talks about the toils of pressure, respect for people and then shows no regard for it. It's not the end of the world by any stretch, but it certainly was lacking intelligence and respect.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 00:33I guess that been one of the veterans in the sport, a 7 time world champion, current holder of the record for pole positions and wins, in the most dominant car of recent history, with a teammate that hasn’t been able to really bring the fight to you and if not consider the GOAT, most will put you at least in the list of one of them and with probably a few more seasons left in the sport... Makes it a little bit easier to be graciousmwillems wrote:You're right, I do want to see that on the track. I respect Max, but he appears to be a complete d*ck of person when interviewed. With respects to the other drivers, I'm sure they weren't sorry, but you don't see them rubbing it in like that unless there is bad blood. Hamilton on the other hand is extremely graceful in his dominance.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑14 May 2021, 23:51
I’m not disregarding your opinion at all... Everyone has one and everyone is entitled to one.
The one thing in your comment that did caught my attention though is the part regarding Daniel been ready to apply pressure to Lando if he starts struggling... That’s going to happen regardless of what Lando may say.
Your most important rival in F1 is your teammate... You are both in the same car, same resources, etc... That’s the one driver you need to make sure you beat!
Not long ago, we were asking from Lando to be more ruthless, more aggressive (at the track of course), that he was “too nice”... Suddenly he shows a little bit of it (although I still don’t think his answer was aggressive) and now we are criticizing it.
In regards to the comment been childish... It’s your opinion, no arguing there... But let’s keep in mind that he is indeed still a kid (22 years old)... I can’t fathom having to be super careful about everything I said and having every statement scrutinized while I was that age... Hell, I’m twice his age and still struggle when I have had to make public statements making sure that they are politically correct.
Finally, I’m sure that if the same question would be asked around the paddock, unless it is a “veteran” speaking about a “rookie”, most would answer the same way... Lewis isn’t sorry for Bottas and his struggles, Max wasn’t sorry for Gasly or Albon and so on... If there is one thing that I take from Lando’s comments is that he not only respects Daniel, but that he acknowledges that Daniel may have the upper hand on him and he (Lando) is the underdog in this fight.
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I do indeed want elbows and aggression and I want to see a more aggressive Lando, but yeah I feel this was poorly judged, obnoxious and more likely to come and bite Lando on the bum than it will do anything to help him. I don't think you need to be obnoxious to be ruthless. Hamilton is ruthless, utterly ruthless on the track, so you don't need that kind of voice to have aggression.
He is 22 and still a kid. Surrounded by media folks to advise him, coached on how to speak to the press... but what jus elevates it is that it is so out of character for him and also given his recent strong support of Mind, it just feels out of kilter and hope it isn't a sign of things to come.
I honestly can’t remember Hamilton’s interviews when he was coming into the sport and at a similar age to compare.
But, I don’t think it will come back to “bite him”, in a few weeks no one will remember this particular interview or what he said.
And I can’t see the relationship between this situation and his involvement with Mind, this is a question in regards to your teammate struggling because he changed cars and is having a hard time adapting to the new drive... Trying to correlate it to Mental Health issues is just trying to find something to criticize him for, but is just my opinion though
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