2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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Really embarrassing for Gasly, getting lapped by your teammate with no apparent car issues.

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Ground Effect wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 11:36
Do you guys think there's any truth in the Hulkenberg link? True they have Kvyat and Albon in the wings, but I don't know how good Kvyat's relationship is with Marko and promoting Albon may be the same mistake they made with Gasly, too much too soon? From all indications, 2020 could be a real full on title challenge, it's imperative that have 2 good drivers. If not Hulk, Buemi?
It's possible they might be looking at Hulkenberg, he's experienced, can get the points and likely has the talent to win Grand Prix's when the opportunity presents itself. If Red Bull are in a position to challenge for the drivers and constructors championships in 2020, then they probably won't want to risk throwing Albon into that pressure cooker. I think he needs at least another season or so in the TR. The main thing for Red Bull is to keep Max happy and it's starting to look like all the ingredients for a proper title challenge from RBR are there for 2020. It's just a question of who is the right driver to slot alongside Max. Unless Gasly pulls out some amazing races out of the bag soon, he'll probably not last the season.

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With the same package if Gas can get within .3 of Max before summer break which is the next 3 races then I think he's safe to the end of the season. At more than .3, I think RBR needs to consider how to get more points the rest of the season and try to take the 2nd place from Ferrari somehow.

As much as I have high hope for Albon, I hope he gets another season in TR and not rush him to RB. Kyvat could be the stop gap and swap with Gasly. Let Gas and Alb grow another season or 2 in TR.

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Gasly is strugling with the RB 15 since the preseason test. He crashed and destroyed the car at a time the laps they lost were crucial.
He crashed the car many times in FP. He always got beaten by Max. He is complaining the car doesnt suit him. (maybe it doesnt)
If thats the case, he has no future at RBR because his feedback has ZERO worth. Max's feedback on the other hand is worth gold, because he is driving at the limit he know how to develop further.
They really would be stupid if they let Gasly drive till the end of the season. This is even more worse then the Michael and Eddie era. Especially with the limited amount of testing days they need better feedback.
I honestly believe Helmut will give him a call before the German GP..

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Would you all say Kvyat was demoted in 2016 over more or less? Regarding Gasly.

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j.yank wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 10:23
selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 05:45
I think it is a Newly magic not honda magic. .... If they stick with Renault Engine, they would beaten Ferrari for second place and may be challenged for Mec.
Max told everything:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb ... ced1d4.jpg
Okay. Lets wait and see your comment/feedback on HONDA at the end of this year F1 season. I don't believe it is Honda power, it is Newly.... They are getting good chunk of speed from chassis not from Honda! AS I said lets wait and watch...

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 17:30
j.yank wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 10:23
selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 05:45
I think it is a Newly magic not honda magic. .... If they stick with Renault Engine, they would beaten Ferrari for second place and may be challenged for Mec.
Max told everything:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb ... ced1d4.jpg
Okay. Lets wait and see your comment/feedback on HONDA at the end of this year F1 season. I don't believe it is Honda power, it is Newly.... They are getting good chunk of speed from chassis not from Honda! AS I said lets wait and watch...
In the hottest of races, where other teams had to dial back, Honda gave the clear to overclock their PU. Surely, you do understand what this means?

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ispano6 wrote:
selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 17:30
j.yank wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 10:23
Max told everything:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb ... ced1d4.jpg
Okay. Lets wait and see your comment/feedback on HONDA at the end of this year F1 season. I don't believe it is Honda power, it is Newly.... They are getting good chunk of speed from chassis not from Honda! AS I said lets wait and watch...
In the hottest of races, where other teams had to dial back, Honda gave the clear to overclock their PU. Surely, you do understand what this means?
That’s a luxury that other teams don’t have... The likes of Ferrari and Mercedes will try to finish the season on 3 engines... RBR on the other hand may / will use as many as needed and that allows them to sacrifice mileage for performance... Which is a good strategy given that they are not fighting for the WCC


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Looking at the nature of this track, the altitude and temperatures. It seems like the Mexican GP will still be a GP for Red Bull to lead this year.

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ORF: "It was the package and Max's ability to catch up fantastic. We again had temperature and tire problems. We got a new engine in Paul Ricard, but then the mapping was wrong. This time we had full power of the Honda engine, we could use eighty percent of the race. We were really on the limit for the last thirty laps." - Marko

Telegraaf: "The last thirty rounds of Max were fireworks. Honda gave us all the power they had. In this way, after such a start, the victory is even more spectacular." - Marko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUbf0LsamAg
https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/19596352 ... rdt-lastig

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The higher the altitude, the less the engine has an impact. Mexico could be another race where they might be able to win.

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Last year the Rbr won because Mercedes has a double retirement so I think the whole altitude thing is being oversold .Max has beaten a Ferrari every race but one, so if you take merc from the equation the race was between Rbr and Ferrari.Rbr Honda won it fair and squarely despite Ferrari engine advantages

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gandharva wrote:
01 Jul 2019, 18:01
The higher the altitude, the less the engine has an impact. Mexico could be another race where they might be able to win.
Hope so (win mexico) but as mentioned in dhl fastest lap video, max made his fastest lap on hard tire of the race and lots of laps on that tire. So it was not only engine. Everything was perfect for Redbull. If ıt was not for one time situation and Redbull started to make tyres and aero works better there must be more opportunities