autogyro wrote:It was fairly easy to predict problems with the balancing of energy recovery with rear wheel braking.
Adding 'brake by wire' in a fully automatic mode on the rear just makes the balancing much worse.
Power train maps that finely and accurately control energy recovery from two sources, heat and deceleration (kinetic), are not really compatible with an automatic brake operating system, the later has too many variables.
Trying to design around the problem hydraulically will usually end up with binding brakes and or glazed disks (or whatever they now call the problem of compromised friction material).
IMO harvesting kinetic energy and applying energy at the crankshaft nose is asking for trouble.
All the counter torques and bending forces are being applied directly to the most important and potentially fragile part of the power train.
The other result of this automatic rear braking control is to further isolate the driver from his skill function.
The cars in effect go very quickly out of driver control and will give far less confidence.
IMO with the problems added to by the aero designers packaging with no lee way for heat extraction, untested tyres having to deal with more constant and higher torque levels and no proper circuit testing available, this will result in a disaster at the first GP. probably a few fires and many crashed and retired cars.
Of course there is a better way with a sensible place to apply and harvest kinetic energy and it is not at the engine.
It depends on how far the 'design by committee' approach to F1 has gone as to whether it would now be allowed.
So what?
GB 1996:
Ret 3 Jean Alesi Benetton-Renault 44 Brakes 5
Ret 9 Olivier Panis Ligier-Mugen-Honda 40 Handling 16
Ret 10 Pedro Diniz Ligier-Mugen-Honda 38 Engine 17
Ret 5 Damon Hill Williams-Renault 26 Wheel 1
Ret 20 Pedro Lamy Minardi-Ford 21 Gearbox 19
Ret 16 Ricardo Rosset Footwork-Hart 13 Electrical 20
Ret 18 Ukyo Katayama Tyrrell-Yamaha 12 Engine 12
Ret 2 Eddie Irvine Ferrari 5 Differential 10
Ret 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 3 Hydraulics 3
Monaco 1996:
5 19 Mika Salo Tyrrell-Yamaha 70 Collision 11 2
6 7 Mika Hakkinen McLaren-Mercedes 70 Collision 8 1
7 2 Eddie Irvine Ferrari 68 Collision 7
Ret 6 Jacques Villeneuve Williams-Renault 68 Collision 10
Ret 3 Jean Alesi Benetton-Renault 60 Suspension 3
Ret 22 Luca Badoer Forti-Ford 60 Collision 21
Ret 5 Damon Hill Williams-Renault 40 Engine 2
Ret 12 Martin Brundle Jordan-Peugeot 30 Spun off 16
Ret 4 Gerhard Berger Benetton-Renault 9 Gearbox 4
Ret 10 Pedro Diniz Ligier-Mugen-Honda 5 Transmission 17
Ret 16 Ricardo Rosset Footwork-Hart 3 Spun off 20
Ret 18 Ukyo Katayama Tyrrell-Yamaha 2 Spun off 15
Ret 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 0 Spun off 1
Ret 11 Rubens Barrichello Jordan-Peugeot 0 Spun off 6
Ret 17 Jos Verstappen Footwork-Hart 0 Spun off 12
Ret 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Minardi-Ford 0 Collision 18
Ret 20 Pedro Lamy Minardi-Ford 0 Collision 19
DNS 23 Andrea Montermini Forti-Ford 0 Collision 19
I remembered those two but there's more
(Canada):
Ret 20 Pedro Lamy Minardi-Ford 44 Collision 19
Ret 22 Luca Badoer Forti-Ford 44 Gearbox 20
Ret 4 Gerhard Berger Benetton-Renault 42 Spun off 7
Ret 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 41 Halfshaft 3
Ret 9 Olivier Panis Ligier-Mugen-Honda 39 Engine 11
Ret 19 Mika Salo Tyrrell-Yamaha 39 Engine 14
Ret 10 Pedro Diniz Ligier-Mugen-Honda 38 Engine 18
Ret 11 Rubens Barrichello Jordan-Peugeot 22 Clutch 8
Ret 23 Andrea Montermini Forti-Ford 22 Electrical 22
Ret 15 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Sauber-Ford 19 Gearbox 12
Ret 17 Jos Verstappen Footwork-Hart 10 Engine 13
Ret 16 Ricardo Rosset Footwork-Hart 6 Collision 21
Ret 18 Ukyo Katayama Tyrrell-Yamaha 6 Collision 17
Ret 2 Eddie Irvine Ferrari 1 Suspension 5
