Mercedes AMG F1 W06 Speculation

[trinidefender]

This is my solution to increasing the air flow to the tea tray.

A single pylon with aero dynamic teardrop profile and special guide vanes on the wing tips to help keep the air flow as straight as possible under the nose. This should minimize the low nose deficit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/ ... c102f6.png

This would create a stalling effect around the innermost areas around the front wing. Currently the vortex rotating around the inner edges of the front wing is used to help stop that area from stalling as it is the area with the highest angle of attack to the airflow.

2nd putting more bodywork pieces in front of the airflow will only change its direction momentarily, it would not actually increase the massflow of air going under the nose to the T-tray.

Majorly those extensions would kill the vortex created on the enter edges of the wings that flow backwards to the turning vanes and then flow around the the bottom of the sidepods.

[siskue2005]

Mercedes W06 nose may look like

https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4028_o.jpg

http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... e-2015.jpg

Read
http://www.newsf1.it/formula-1-2015-new ... aren-nose/

Such a shame the w05 nose was such a looker
Fia should have allowed the inverted u design, it would have made all cars look fantastic

[Manoah2u]

let's just await the actual 2015 noses before condeming them.

The net result of all the 2014 speculation that the 2015 noses looked significantly different to what was
expected from all the impressions and design excersizes. Which were all very interesting and great to see,
but there is no reason to expect any different for 2015.

The way we and media interpreted the rules does not neccesarily be how the designers interpreted the rules.
Additionaly, every single part of the car is balanced to a 'philosophy' where the entire car needs to respond to.

In other words; changing the tip of the nose has a significant effect on the rest of the car design.

Regardless, i don't think the W06 will be very different to the W05. I'd even think Merc would have minor adjustments
to the nose compared to W05. As much as i like seeing design exercises, the above shown '2015' nose to me looks like a carbon copy-paste copy from the Lotus excersize nose as seen in the 2014 COTA free practice. That won't work, because
you simply can't just put a nose from one car to another; again, the entire design philosophy is balanced to every part of the car.
The lotus nose is built for the lotus. The Merc nose for the Merc. the RedBull, etc etc etc.

The 3 biggest changes for 2015 i'd expect are for Mclaren, Lotus and Ferrari.

Mercedes probably will just have minor changes to the nose tip, minor changes to the front and rear wing, and a slightly different middle section of the car to cope with overheating of electronics, which hampered them a few times in the 2014 season. And, offcouse the chrome livery.

[Manoah2u]

i hope they'll run a completely sponsor-free test livery in complete chrome with just a white patch with red #numbers.
that would look great.

[Alexgtt]

This is a technical thread, livery discussion can go in team thread.

The 2015 nose regs in my opinion won't effect Merc too much at all. The 2014 nose was not far off. The aerodynamics will be evolution. The PU has no doubt been a great advantage but the aero/chassis has been underplayed by most when they are excellent already. Horner's engine handicap card has been blown out the water by Newey's comments.

[Manoah2u]

it's in regards to the W06 being the first Merc running chrome so it's appropriate.

[PlatinumZealot]

This is my solution to increasing the air flow to the tea tray.

A single pylon with aero dynamic teardrop profile and special guide vanes on the wing tips to help keep the air flow as straight as possible under the nose. This should minimize the low nose deficit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/ ... c102f6.png

This would create a stalling effect around the innermost areas around the front wing. Currently the vortex rotating around the inner edges of the front wing is used to help stop that area from stalling as it is the area with the highest angle of attack to the airflow.

2nd putting more bodywork pieces in front of the airflow will only change its direction momentarily, it would not actually increase the massflow of air going under the nose to the T-tray.

Majorly those extensions would kill the vortex created on the enter edges of the wings that flow backwards to the turning vanes and then flow around the the bottom of the sidepods.

The "single pylon" solution does not block the air as much as you think. The design would be to have less body work in front of the tea tray.
Yes, I was dramatic with the wing tips - just showing that with the single pylon the inboard parts front wing has to be used to compensate, to fill the gap behind the pylong. It is an inferior design, I know, because as you say the wing tip would be heavily loaded and not to mention the very useful wing tip vortex would be all over the place.. but just a little fun.

[TAG]

I'd be inclined to think the single pylon idea illegal, since there entire center section of the wing area has to remain as per the FiA spec.

[scarbs]

Teams are using the twin pylons as turning vanes in conjunction with the other y 250 devices. A single pylon loses that benefit

[adrianjordan]

it's in regards to the W06 being the first Merc running chrome so it's appropriate.

I think the general concensus is that livery isn't a technical item relating to the car but more relating to the team...

[ringo]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... 1421166769

Illustration by scarbs, it looks similar to the Marussia wind tunnel model. May i ask, if this is one of the three noses you know ( http://youtu.be/TVs7W2LvBuI?t=4m49s ), scarbs? What other odd shapes are possible?

http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editori ... 150112.jpg

I think aerodynamically, you don't want that roof over the wing. It's best if the wing is fully exposed from the top, ie no body work above it. So a ferrari 2014 nose would work quite well.

[FrukostScones]

Merc engine will start with "new" 2015 design from the start. (not sure if already all 32 tokens used on that stage?)

https://translate.google.de/translate?s ... t=&act=url

Maybe the Honda decision by FIA influenced this move?

[mikeerfol]

Maybe? I'd say 100%

[gray41]

Is it better or worse for Honda if Mercedes have used all the tokens?

[mikeerfol]

Depends on what Renault and Ferrari do.