2019 [R09] Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 28-30 June

[Tzk]

That grid promises an exciting race... Is HAM in front of NOR or behind him?

[MtthsMlw]

That grid promises an exciting race... Is HAM in front of NOR or behind him?

HAM P5 and NOR P4

[SmallSoldier]

That grid promises an exciting race... Is HAM in front of NOR or behind him?

Norris starts P4, Hamilton P5


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[Shrieker]

Parallels to other incidents or not, intentional or not, Hamilton hindered Kimi's lap.

And what harm did that do to Raikkonen ? Did Hamilton cause a dangerous situation ? No. Did he prevent Raikkonen from advancing ?...

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...This penalty was given to just shut ppl up who think Mercedes/Hamilton are being somehow favoured, and sets a really really bad precedent.

[zibby43]

With Mercedes struggling with cooling and being further back than they anticipated, I suspect they’ll finish 3rd and 4th, at best.

[zibby43]

That should make for a fun race, Hamilton needs to go through Bottas, Verstappen and Leclerc for the win. I wouldn't be surprised to see T1 crash between Verstappen and Leclerc.

I don't see how Lewis can get past Valtteri, or how anyone else can challenge Charles, so it's a bit of a death knell for the front of the race really

Agreed. The race was set to be super exciting, but that penalty (whether a bit harsh or spot on) could be the killer.

[Shrieker]

So according to the FIA/stewards, if you hit someone with your car and injure them, your sentence should be the same as someone else who hit and caused a death.

[Just_a_fan]

Hamilton will want get ahead of Bottas, even if he doesn't do better than that. Leclerc and Max are a long way back in the title race so if they have a good race it's not too bad. But Hamilton won't want Bottas to gain ground on him in the title race. If he gets past Bottas I think he'll be relatively happy to sit in P3. Key for Hamilton is getting by Norris straight away and then harassing Bottas from the first lap.

[SmallSoldier]

Parallels to other incidents or not, intentional or not, Hamilton hindered Kimi's lap.

And what harm did that do to Raikkonen ? Did Hamilton cause a dangerous situation ? No. Did he prevent Raikkonen from advancing ? No. This penalty is bullshit you guys are just bitter. Admit it and move on. This penalty was given to just shut ppl up who think Mercedes/Hamilton are being somehow favoured, and sets a really really bad precedent.

No it doesn’t... The rule is simple, if you impede another car, you get a penalty... It doesn’t matter what the outcome is, is the action (not the result) that determines the penalty.


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[Restomaniac]

Hamilton’s reaction is to hold his hands up like an adult and own it.

[Just_a_fan]

Compare with a certain other driver's response to being penalised following his own mistake / actions.

[zibby43]

- Bottas have had the same situation tyre wise and his results were down to 3 tenths from Lewis which is due to having a spec.1 PU ...

They put the Spec 2 PU back in for Bottas ahead of FP2, unless I missed something since then.

[izzy]

It's going to come up to who can get the best pace on the hards. A SC or VSC at the wrong time can wreck havoc as we saw last week.

Yes perhaps the tyres can save us, Charles on softs, I don't like to hope for an sc. Is Lando on soft too? But he'll be losing 1s a lap before they go off enough

[roon]

Compare with a certain other driver's response to being penalised following his own mistake / actions.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experienc ... 057458.jpg

That's Russel?

[LM10]

Parallels to other incidents or not, intentional or not, Hamilton hindered Kimi's lap.

And what harm did that do to Raikkonen ? Did Hamilton cause a dangerous situation ? No. Did he prevent Raikkonen from advancing ? No. This penalty is bullshit you guys are just bitter. Admit it and move on. This penalty was given to just shut ppl up who think Mercedes/Hamilton are being somehow favoured, and sets a really really bad precedent.

He did prevent Kimi from doing his fast lap. Kimi surely was put in a disadvantageous position because of that, that's for sure. He needed to abort the lap and start another one. Is this an advantage for Kimi? No. Is it a disadvantage? Yes.
Kimi still being able to get through doesn't change that.