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imightbewrong
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horse wrote:
imightbewrong wrote:never mind
Did I say something wrong?
Not at all, just me being slightly stooopid :)

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Pandamasque wrote:Talking of the orifice. It is massive, but why? Other teams seem to be ok with a narrow slot. This one looks like there's a jet engine or something.
Newey has a history of dividing aero resources between left and right sides of the car so there is a separate port on each side, and BTW many cars have this arrangement for the DD. The differences here are that Newey/RB are keeping the diffuser exit below and behind the leading edge of the lower wing element. Most teams are using the center exit method around the crash structure, presumably to use the maximum wake strength. Apparently RB are happy with the way this arrangement is working. So far you haven't even seen them attach a gurney flap to the top of those posts or shorten those ports to possibly better blend the port exits with the lower wing element flow. About the only change I can discern so far is small changes in the lower wing angle at most.

On the face of it there seems to be a few things RB can easily do to tweak/tune the diffuser but it's probably already optimized as is. The real difference in diffusers this year is in the parts we cannot see .. the floor inlets.

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I actually meant the gigantic cooling outlet above the beam wing.

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Things are going well for the RB6 so far:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx ... 0&PO=47810
Mark Webber put Red Bull Racing back on top of the timesheet as the rain finally relented at Jerez on Friday and the teams were able to complete such much-needed dry weather running.

Torrential rain on Thursday night caused flooding and left the local roads strewn with rocks, but bright sunshine and blue skies appeared early on Friday morning and allowed the teams to use slick tyres for most of the day.

Webber outpaced the opposition by a comfortable 0.8s, and his best time of 1m19.299s – set during one of two short sprints in between longer runs – was 0.2s faster than Lewis Hamilton’s benchmark from the first Jerez test last week.

Mark believes
the RB6 to be a fundamental improvement over its race-winning predecessor but said that direct comparisons were difficult to make because of the new fuel regulations and tyres introduced for 2010.
"It wasn't too bad today, it was good to get some dry running in," said Webber. "We tried a mixture of very high and other different fuel loads. It's got to be done because every dry lap is pretty important these days so this is a lot better than we expected today.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81609
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Nice analysis of this weeks running at Jerez here:

Jerez test 2 final analysis: Red Bull most consistently quick, wet and dry

Another winter testing session done, only one more to go before the racing starts in Bahrain. If you thought the weather was capricious for last week’s testing in Jerez, that was nothing on this one. True, the teams had less to complain about with actual sunshine the final two days, but that change from torrential rains and wind to dry conditions may make determinations about speed and readiness levels even more difficult to make. As usual, let’s try, though. It seems that Toro Rosso, last week’s most consistent team, was not so consistent this week. Instead, it appears that the most consistently quick team was Red Bull, and especially in the hands of Sebastian Vettel. We’ll begin with the times from each day, then continue on to the rankings, as worked so interestingly with the first Jerez session (see here for that analysis at F1B).....
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Djos, you're the unofficial ambassador for RBR on this forum. :)

While their pace and times seems to be fine, Mark Webber has expressed concerns over their reliability. That's something serious when it comes to RBR; back to pre-2009 levels??
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mx_tifosi wrote:Djos, you're the unofficial ambassador for RBR on this forum. :)

While their pace and times seems to be fine, Mark Webber has expressed concerns over their reliability. That's something serious when it comes to RBR; back to pre-2009 levels??
lol, it sure looks that way! :o

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised at the number of issues they've had, imo letting Geoff Willis go last year was not a smart move! #-o
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Reliability is still a worry, and it was a worry last year with their engines. They seem to have done quite a bit of running and then run into some problems.

Still not quite sure where they are exactly, but I'll be surprised if they're still not masking a bit of speed. They've shown their hand slightly, but not completely. I still believe Geof Willis's assement of McLaren and Red Bull in front to be correct. James Allen is still talking about Ferrari being in front via fuel corrected times, but I think he's barking up the wrong tree there as things are far more uncertain in testing than they are in qualifying and races.

There's still a lot of scope for development for Barcelona and everyone will frantically be getting new parts on.

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RedBull February 20 tested nuts, analogous Ferrari nuts and wheel disk with brake cooling 8)

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nice find Dimitri! 8)
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What disc? That looks like a normal, spinning wheel...

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RacingManiac wrote:What disc? That looks like a normal, spinning wheel...
Good point, it may be a custom wheel spoke design rather that a Ferrari style add-on.
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RacingManiac wrote:What disc? That looks like a normal, spinning wheel...
+1. Here's proof...

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The spinning motion makes the spokes look wider than they really are.
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mx_tifosi wrote:
RacingManiac wrote:What disc? That looks like a normal, spinning wheel...
+1. Here's proof...

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The spinning motion makes the spokes look wider than they really are.

LOL, it is indeed! :oops:
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Fan boys just need to calm down a bit.