Bahrain GP 2010 - BIC

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ISLAMATRON
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Again, something has to be done about P3 being a better start position than P2, it is absurd... the space between rows needs to be increased.

The addition of the new section of track was a complete failure, luckily they can easily revert next year.

Why did we hear Bulk told to save fuel but not Alonso?

Those supersofts lasted much better than I expected.

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I agree the race was boring. As it was expected the teams with the biggest resources profited from little change in the rules. Unfortunately they are now ahead and there is little hope that others will catch up. Red Bull being fast is a ray of hope that Ferrari will be challenged, but at the moment Red Bull and Ferrari seem to be about equal in performance with a reliability problem at Red Bull. So I would be surprised if we see a major shake up this year. Massa said his race engineer told him for 30 laps of the race to conserve fuel. It sounds like Ferrari is implementing team orders already.

Button/Hamilton was decisively won by Hamilton. Rosberg was faster in quali than Schumi but could not find superior race pace to Schumacher.

Webber was massively off the pace compared to Vettel. A shame what happened to Sutil. He was on hard tyres. It would ave been interesting to see that shaking out.
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Tazio wrote:Does anyone have the speed trap numbers?
I posted some earlier in the thread ;)

It went something like this:

Ham 313
Hul 312
But 311
Kub 310

McLaren weren't storming ahead.
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WhiteBlue wrote:...Red Bull being fast is a ray of hope that Ferrari will be challenged, but at the moment Red Bull and Ferrari seem to be about equal in performance with a reliability problem at Red Bul...
Everything upside down :roll:

Red Bull is the team to be challenged - up till problems Ferrari wasn't able to challenge Vettel.

Reliability problem at Red Bull?!

Ferrari changed both engines, Red Bull none.

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nacho wrote:Button is just as good as Heikki in the other McLaren.
expected, i think he is slower too. Heiki is highly underated. Heiki was never consitently 4 tenths off Lewis, he was like 2 or 2.5 tenths off.
I still believe heiki is a fast son of a gun, maybe top 10 in terms of raw speed, Lewis was just overshadowing Heiki's skills.
Button is a better long haul racer than heiki though since he doesn't make mistakes, but it's not enough to hold off Massa, Rosberg, Shumacher to get Mclaren the championship.

Ferrari is a strong team of equally strong drivers. Mclaren may want to look at bringing in guys like Raikonen or Kubica in the future. However it's just the first race and
all Jenson has to do is score points to keep Mclaren in the top 3, so that is a step forward. His race was ok too, he had a sweet spot a couple laps coming down on shumacher, and seems to have steady performance compared to webber's eratic lap times. He may be an asset on a smoother high speed turn track.
I must say, that i never really supported Button, but thanks to the telemetry, i enjoyed cheering him for the race. He was holding it together well.
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Redbull car itself was very reliable.. It's just a matter of a faulty exhaust. That car is in another league! It seems to be doing OK with the tyres too.
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RedBull would be well advised to get the guys who did the Toyota exhaust. A major source of pride in the Toyota shop was the crushed exhaust hanging on the wall, from the Sutil/Trulli shunt that was still in one piece, with no cracks.
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http://www.f1technical.net/news/9536

A single mechanical failure is by no means proof for problems with reliability.

Remember Schumaher's engine blow at Suzuka 2006? Problems happen even to the most reliable cars.

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ringo
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Anybody has the pitstop times? I saw a chart come up on TV with the times for each driver. Redbull had pitstops at 4 seconds with Mclaren at 4.9s. And Mclaren's were quick!
Not sure where they were measuring from, maybe from when the nose of the car hits the jack.
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horse
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n smikle wrote:It seems to be doing OK with the tyres too.
Tyres don't seem to be causing any problems at all. Whitmarsh reckons they could have gone the whole way on one set of primes and half distance on the options.
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ringo wrote:Not sure where they were measuring from, maybe from when the nose of the car hits the jack.
I think telemetry - car stops/car starts moving.

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Please allow me to disagree, White blue.
WhiteBlue wrote:Button/Hamilton was decisively won by Hamilton. Rosberg was faster in quali than Schumi but could not find superior race pace to Schumacher.

Webber was massively off the pace compared to Vettel. A shame what happened to Sutil. He was on hard tyres. It would ave been interesting to see that shaking out.
IMHO, Rosberg's pace was quite good, and the only time when Michael found time was when he got the prime tyres earlier than Nico. It's true, however, that there wasn't much between the two. Furthermore, Nico should have overtaken Vettel.

Regarding Webber, he spent the whole race behind somebody. It's true that he messed qualifying, and that he also lost time at the start, but, then, between Button and Schumacher, he never really had the chance to push. And we saw how Alonso went 1s quicker as soon as he got past Vettel.

Finally, is Vettel becoming the Ubuntu of Formula 1? We've got Dirty Kate and Lusty? Lucy. What will be next? Miraculous Miranda? Naughty Natalie? Sexy Sandra? Now, he only needs a brown helmet!!!!! Joking, of course.

EDIT for Islamatron: If the distance between rows increased, the starts would lose quite a bit of appeal. Formula 1 starts are awesome. Why change it? However, something must be done regarding the dirty side. Maybe have old cars repeat starts from each grid slot? I just don't know.
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Mr Alcatraz
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manchild wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:...Red Bull being fast is a ray of hope that Ferrari will be challenged, but at the moment Red Bull and Ferrari seem to be about equal in performance with a reliability problem at Red Bul...
Everything upside down :roll:

Red Bull is the team to be challenged - up till problems Ferrari wasn't able to challenge Vettel.

Reliability problem at Red Bull?!

Ferrari changed both engines, Red Bull none.
The Ferraris stayed very close to Vettel.
I think in the next few races at least, it is going to be who qualifies on the pole!
I don't think that RedBull are a lock for that!
But I could be wrong!
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Webber did have some purple sector times and never had any clear air, entirely his own doing for messing up qual...but none the less he never showed his speed due to traffic.

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That, my friends, was a most boring race.

If I wanted to watch endurance racing, I'd watch endurance racing.

"Save your tires."
"Save fuel."
"Save your engine."

This ain't F1. Effin' Mosley.

Maybe if Bernie would give us HD, then at least we could watch the grass grow in the infield. :evil: