2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Andres125sx]

Almost looks like they´re trying to ruin Sainz championship intentionally, so they can focus on Lecrerc even if that means Mercedes beat them. It´s hard to believe a F1 team can mess one of their drivers pitstops so frequently while the other driver pitstops are fast and consistent.

No wheel for Sainz? not serious... Can any of you imagine RBR making such a mistake? I can´t

[Juzh]

No wheel for Sainz? not serious... Can any of you imagine RBR making such a mistake? I can´t

[Andres125sx]

2006 and 2016... so RBR mess it up once per decade

I'll save the forum from posting videos of all Ferrari mistakes in last decade, it will be too long of a post...

[alexx_88]

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

It's really unfortunate, as the 2022 was an excellent chance for them. Rule change + RB and Mercedes focused a lot of their resources on their 2021 battle. They should've had a Brawn-like advantage points wise after the first 1/3 of the season. Then try to hang on with RB and Mercedes as they catch up.

[Vanja #66]

Amazing to read people stating Ferrari do favour Sainz, or he´s just bad. That after a 12.7 seconds pitstop wich sent him into a lot of slow traffic, after an unsafe release wich caused a 5s penalty, and that after Hamilton crashed into him and caused some floor damage...

Do people watch the races?

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

Whatever the team did wrong to Sainz is nowhere near to costing Leclerc 3 victories (without taking 2 DNF from lead into account), he simply lacks the capabilities to be a #1 driver and lacks willingness to admit he would be a good #2 driver. The team should replace him before his behaviour costs them more titles.

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Amazing to read people stating Ferrari do favour Sainz, or he´s just bad. That after a 12.7 seconds pitstop wich sent him into a lot of slow traffic, after an unsafe release wich caused a 5s penalty, and that after Hamilton crashed into him and caused some floor damage...

Do people watch the races?

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

Whatever the team did wrong to Sainz is nowhere near to costing Leclerc 3 victories (without taking 2 DNF from lead into account), he simply lacks the capabilities to be a #1 driver and lacks willingness to admit he would be a good #2 driver. The team should replace him before his behaviour costs them more titles.

Amen to that. I thought he would be a good addition to the team but after 1,5 year he clearly is not.

[101FlyingDutchman]

Amazing to read people stating Ferrari do favour Sainz, or he´s just bad. That after a 12.7 seconds pitstop wich sent him into a lot of slow traffic, after an unsafe release wich caused a 5s penalty, and that after Hamilton crashed into him and caused some floor damage...

Do people watch the races?

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

Whatever the team did wrong to Sainz is nowhere near to costing Leclerc 3 victories (without taking 2 DNF from lead into account), he simply lacks the capabilities to be a #1 driver and lacks willingness to admit he would be a good #2 driver. The team should replace him before his behaviour costs them more titles.

Amen to that. I thought he would be a good addition to the team but after 1,5 year he clearly is not.

He’s talking about LEC,not SAI.

I think people forget that this championship should have been MUCH different than it has turned out to become. FER has had the pace on the majority of circuits. If they hadn’t screwed up so much Pre summer break, this Dutch GP would have been very tense for all.

Couple of DNFs, driver errors and insane screw ups in the pits and on the pit wall has squandered what could have been a 2 horse race

[Alonsismo]

the damage of Sainz's floor

[Andres125sx]

Amazing to read people stating Ferrari do favour Sainz, or he´s just bad. That after a 12.7 seconds pitstop wich sent him into a lot of slow traffic, after an unsafe release wich caused a 5s penalty, and that after Hamilton crashed into him and caused some floor damage...

Do people watch the races?

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

Whatever the team did wrong to Sainz is nowhere near to costing Leclerc 3 victories (without taking 2 DNF from lead into account), he simply lacks the capabilities to be a #1 driver and lacks willingness to admit he would be a good #2 driver. The team should replace him before his behaviour costs them more titles.

Reading this post looks like you consider Ferrari mistakes with Lecrerc are Sainz responsibility?

[basti313]

Amazing to read people stating Ferrari do favour Sainz, or he´s just bad. That after a 12.7 seconds pitstop wich sent him into a lot of slow traffic, after an unsafe release wich caused a 5s penalty, and that after Hamilton crashed into him and caused some floor damage...

Do people watch the races?

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

Whatever the team did wrong to Sainz is nowhere near to costing Leclerc 3 victories (without taking 2 DNF from lead into account), he simply lacks the capabilities to be a #1 driver and lacks willingness to admit he would be a good #2 driver. The team should replace him before his behaviour costs them more titles.

Reading this post looks like you consider Ferrari mistakes with Lecrerc are Sainz responsibility?

Where do you read this?
I think it is clear: If they want to fight for a WDC, then they need a Nr1 driver. Even though Ferrari would have been on the level to fight for WDC they are not in the WDC fight for two reasons: Own errors and not committing Sainz to a Nr2 role.

Of course with these many errors the Nr2 role is not relevant. But in a scenario where they do not screw themselves a Nr2 is vital. With a real roadblock Leclerc would have won Stone for example...without the tech errors and the France error they could have Lec in the fight. They did the same error in 2019.

Of course they can commit to Sainz and give him an occasional win if he is occasionally good and lucky. But is this what Ferrari needs as a team?

[JPower]

the damage of Sainz's floor
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb4R8xQX0AE ... me=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fb4R-H4XwAA ... me=900x900

Well that sucks.

[JPower]

Amazing to read people stating Ferrari do favour Sainz, or he´s just bad. That after a 12.7 seconds pitstop wich sent him into a lot of slow traffic, after an unsafe release wich caused a 5s penalty, and that after Hamilton crashed into him and caused some floor damage...

Do people watch the races?

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

Whatever the team did wrong to Sainz is nowhere near to costing Leclerc 3 victories (without taking 2 DNF from lead into account), he simply lacks the capabilities to be a #1 driver and lacks willingness to admit he would be a good #2 driver. The team should replace him before his behaviour costs them more titles.

Unserious posting always gets a laugh from me.

[Andres125sx]

Whatever the team did wrong to Sainz is nowhere near to costing Leclerc 3 victories (without taking 2 DNF from lead into account), he simply lacks the capabilities to be a #1 driver and lacks willingness to admit he would be a good #2 driver. The team should replace him before his behaviour costs them more titles.

Reading this post looks like you consider Ferrari mistakes with Lecrerc are Sainz responsibility?

Where do you read this?
I think it is clear: If they want to fight for a WDC, then they need a Nr1 driver. Even though Ferrari would have been on the level to fight for WDC they are not in the WDC fight for two reasons: Own errors and not committing Sainz to a Nr2 role.

Of course with these many errors the Nr2 role is not relevant. But in a scenario where they do not screw themselves a Nr2 is vital. With a real roadblock Leclerc would have won Stone for example...without the tech errors and the France error they could have Lec in the fight. They did the same error in 2019.

Of course they can commit to Sainz and give him an occasional win if he is occasionally good and lucky. But is this what Ferrari needs as a team?

What Ferrari need as a team to fight for WDC is avoiding rookie mistakes like over 12 seconds pitstops because someone forgot cars use 4 tires

I could use some more examples like a reliable car, or decent strategies, but you get the idea.

Ferrari need to improve in several departments, but drivers is one of the few which is ok.

Also, it looks like you need to be reminded about a fact, that driver who you're asking to be considered #2 from the start of the season, scored more points than Lecrerc in 2021, with same car, and despite it was his very first season with the car.

[Shal_Leg16]

Amazing to read people stating Ferrari do favour Sainz, or he´s just bad. That after a 12.7 seconds pitstop wich sent him into a lot of slow traffic, after an unsafe release wich caused a 5s penalty, and that after Hamilton crashed into him and caused some floor damage...

Do people watch the races?

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

There is no doubt Sainz was unlucky today but thats nothing new now, each race there has to be something bad with either of them.

Regarding your claim i think Leclerc side of pit ( i mean fans ) dont really hate sainz but we neither think he is at Leclerc's level.
The bad vibes he gets here and at many other fan forums is more down to constant comparison and over hyping him at every possible occasion. 1 good race from Sainz in 5 and "he is better" argument pops up.

Also to be honest on race day Sainz hasnt shown much this entire season. He may not have been shockingly bad but more like ineffective against likes of RB and Mercs. Just hanging around there in 3-4 etc waiting for something to happen ( which he is quite good at ) but not forcing anything himself.

[organic]

Amazing to read people stating Ferrari do favour Sainz, or he´s just bad. That after a 12.7 seconds pitstop wich sent him into a lot of slow traffic, after an unsafe release wich caused a 5s penalty, and that after Hamilton crashed into him and caused some floor damage...

Do people watch the races?

What a disaster of a team, they did improve a lot with car perfomance, but strategy and pitstops wise, they´re still in the lower part of the midfield

There is no doubt Sainz was unlucky today but thats nothing new now, each race there has to be something bad with either of them.

Regarding your claim i think Leclerc side of pit ( i mean fans ) dont really hate sainz but we neither think he is at Leclerc's level.
The bad vibes he gets here and at many other fan forums is more down to constant comparison and over hyping him at every possible occasion. 1 good race from Sainz in 5 and "he is better" argument pops up.

Also to be honest on race day Sainz hasnt shown much this entire season. He may not have been shockingly bad but more like ineffective against likes of RB and Mercs. Just hanging around there in 3-4 etc waiting for something to happen ( which he is quite good at ) but not forcing anything himself.

He won silverstone, had great pace at france&canada, and would've taken points off max at austria if not for engine failure. he hasn't looked brilliant since Austria, but he's had a good season apart from the trips to gravel early on