Hungarian GP 2011 - Hungaroring

[internetf1fan]

Hamilton's spped is unquestioned. But as Hungary showed, he still lacks the maturity and stability that Button displays. Hamilton should look at Button and learn. I don't think he is mature enough to do so.

The team puts the wrong tyre (the SS) when everyone is going the other way and forces him to do qualifying lap, lap after lap just to build a gap for the extra pit stop, increasing risks of mistake. Everything followed as a consqeunce of that horrible decision. The spin, the DT. The gamble on the inters etc.

McLaren should stop putting Hamilton under such intense pressure. Everytime. Everytime they mess up the strategy and put all the pressure on Hamilton to rescue them.

[PlatinumZealot]

Well just got news it was all the teams decision... both on the Super soft AND the inters. What a way to screw over your number 1 driver! lol

This is the reason I stopped supporting Mclaren!

[Traction]

Vettel was well up there in pace!

Then why was he running in 4th before the others made mistakes? Vettel was second only because Alonso and Hamilton didn't change to the prime tyre.

He was hunting them down and forced their errors

[jamsbong]

Just a thought, I find David Couthard's commentary really good! He has really good informative stuff about F1. I guess it is not a surprise since he only recently retired from racing. He probably still have very close ties with RedBull.

What is most enjoyable about his commentating is that he is really honest and level headed. He would say straight away that he does not know something when he does not it, rather than making excuses or switching topics. He is also very focused on minute but important details of the race. He has many occasions spot out details on that we all probably missed.

I really think he is a really good bloke!

[Shrieker]

I still can't understand why they didn't pull Hamilton in when it became obvious there was something wrong with his super soft set (they should've been faster than the softs but were actually slower). Before his spin he had more than 7 seconds in hand against Button and they could've easily pitted him for softs and rejoined right behind Vettel. They probably didn't want to lose on track postion (which is vital here) and instead, lost it all.

[Mr Alcatraz]

A host of familiar faces help Jenson Button celebrate as before he competes in his 200th grand prix in Hungary, at the circuit where he won his first race at in 2006.

A number of Button's fellow drivers, including Fernando Alonso, and his former team bosses popped down to the McLaren compound to celebrate the milestone.

=D>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/formula ... 358853.stm

[myurr]

I still can't understand why they didn't pull Hamilton in when it became obvious there was something wrong with his super soft set (they should've been faster than the softs but were actually slower). Before his spin he had more than 7 seconds in hand against Button and they could've easily pitted him for softs and rejoined right behind Vettel. They probably didn't want to lose on track postion (which is vital here) and instead, lost it all.

I agree. At that point they should have released him to push as hard as he could, knowing that they'd come out behind the others but on much fresher tyres. Hamilton would have probably ended up 3rd maybe 10 seconds behind, with 15 laps or so to go with 1 second a lap better pace.

[Poleman]

Vettel was well up there in pace!

Then why was he running in 4th before the others made mistakes? Vettel was second only because Alonso and Hamilton didn't change to the prime tyre.

He was hunting them down and forced their errors

Stop making posts like this because you are making yourself look worse than the people in the McLaren pitwall...

[Giblet]

The team made a mistake, but so did Hamilton many times in the race.

Does every race have to be a witch hunt at Mclaren? Lewis squandered his lead with a couple of spins, and the team were put in to a less than ideal position.

It all didn't come down to one bad call. The driver failed his team and vice versa. Jenson got it right and so did his engineering team.

What is this tiny little window people watch the race through that keeps them from seeing the whole picture?

[Traction]

It was just a joke man...chill anyway why do you think after a slight mishap Hamilton lost all composure? Do you think the magnitude of the moment got to him?

[Shrieker]

Had Hamilton won today with Vettel 3rd, McLaren could've afforded to finish one or two races behind him and still chase him right to the end of the season. But now it looks like that points gap won't close even if they finish all the remaining races ahead of him; which isn't likely even with a vastly superior car as was proved by Vettel in the first half of the season.

[Mr Alcatraz]

I still can't understand why they didn't pull Hamilton in when it became obvious there was something wrong with his super soft set (they should've been faster than the softs but were actually slower). Before his spin he had more than 7 seconds in hand against Button and they could've easily pitted him for softs and rejoined right behind Vettel. They probably didn't want to lose on track postion (which is vital here) and instead, lost it all.

I agree. At that point they should have released him to push as hard as he could, knowing that they'd come out behind the others but on much fresher tyres. Hamilton would have probably ended up 3rd maybe 10 seconds behind, with 15 laps or so to go with 1 second a lap better pace.

Very good point here.
One thing Ferrari seemed to do correctly was bring in Fred after only about 10 laps on his last set of SS

[Poleman]

It was just a joke man...chill anyway why do you think after a slight mishap Hamilton lost all composure? Do you think the magnitude of the moment got to him?

No harm intended with my comment either,it was rather playful so no worries.

As for Hamilton,i guess the wrong call to send him on SS again is what triggered the whole thing...He had to be on the knife edge doing qualy laps every time in order to build a gap...The conditions were tricky the degradation was high...Hamilton is a superb driver maybe a class of his own but its still human therefore mistakes can happen.

As a McLaren fan on the other hand i am more than glad to see the silver shiny cars being up there holding the bull from its horns. =D>

[Morteza]

A great win for Button on his 200th GP. Amazing drive by him. Does Renault want to kill Heidfeld? They should really think about their car. Man, It was the second time they set him on fire.

[fausto cedros]

I still can't understand why they didn't pull Hamilton in when it became obvious there was something wrong with his super soft set (they should've been faster than the softs but were actually slower). Before his spin he had more than 7 seconds in hand against Button and they could've easily pitted him for softs and rejoined right behind Vettel. They probably didn't want to lose on track postion (which is vital here) and instead, lost it all.

I agree. At that point they should have released him to push as hard as he could, knowing that they'd come out behind the others but on much fresher tyres. Hamilton would have probably ended up 3rd maybe 10 seconds behind, with 15 laps or so to go with 1 second a lap better pace.[/quote]
Very good point here.
One thing Ferrari seemed to do correctly was bring in Fred after only about 10 laps on his last set of SS[/quote]

That is exactly my point of wiew on the race. Who's most likely to blame? Andy Latham who only had to cover button's strategy in second or (unlikely i think) Lewis Hamilton??? I really would appreciate your opinions.