Sebastian Vettel has won the Italian GP after taking the lead on lap 3 of the race. The World Champion was never threatened later on and controlled the remainder of the race. Jenson Button finished in second place while Fernando Alonso pleased the crowd with third place.
It's a very long run down to turn 1, and Webber will most likely have a bad start and create a bottleneck. Senna was late on the brakes with full tanks, so much so that he drilled Algersuari hard and took him out of the race and very nearly took out Alonso at the same time. Not saying he'll do that again, but it seems very likely given his inexperience on full tanks at the race start. I hope he does great though because he's been mighty in his two outings so far.Lycoming wrote:hes a bit far down the grid to be taking off front runners isn't he? he wasn't massively late on the brakes at spa, he just went a bit deep and found himself in a really bad position.
Given his inexperience it was probably a good idea to have him sit out Q3 and not risk him offing the car. Given what he did at the race start it turned out to be a good idea I think. Rather than burn up all the softs in Q3 trying to made grid spots he probably wasn't going to keep, make him hang back and save them so if he makes any mistakes he'll have an advantage climbing back through the field. He's an unknown quantity, even being slightly related to Ayrton Senna, so they have to play conservative with him I think.Mr Alcatraz wrote: I was impressed with Senna up to the point when they cut his balls off and told him to sit tight in q3. I understand the tire strategy and I read on here that what really made it a good move (saving tires) that he wasn't going to improve his grid position anyway. Petrov finished 3 positions ahead of him. I guess Petrov is that much better than him. That's straight up chicken$hit IMO
I have a feeling Senna is in for a tough day as more information comes to light.Renault decided not to run Bruno Senna in the final session of qualifying because he had already put mileage on all his sets of soft tyres for the race.
Each driver is given three sets of soft tyres for qualifying and the race and Senna had completed at least one flying lap on all of them in an effort to make Q3. However, when he got to the final session, Renault felt that sending him out on a used set of softs would not have been beneficial.
http://www.forumula1.com/2011/f1/f1-new ... F1+News%29Bruno Senna had an expensive day at Monza on Friday. The Renault driver, at the start of only his second grand prix of the season having recently replaced Nick Heidfeld, first received a EUR 3,200 fine for breaking the pitlane speed limit by almost 16kph. Half an hour later, Senna was speedy once again, this time clocked at 81.7 in the 60kph zone.
But because it was his second infraction, the FIA doubled the penalty and so the Brazilian’s end-of-day bill was a massive EUR 12,000.
One thing I want to say about this, guys.munudeges wrote:There is more to straight line performance than speed trap figures. We don't get to see how fast a car accelerates to that top speed nor do we see how long they maintain that top speed for. The speed trap figures are fairly meaningless by themselves.MrBlacky wrote:Maybe thats why I don't understand how Vettel can be 5 tenths quicker than anybody else whether he is with 327 kph way off the pace...
What Red Bull have managed to do is get as much drag off the car as possible and improve their straight line performance without compromising the amount of downforce they can generate by having to run a larger rear wing, amongst other things. They must be doing this by generating more downforce from their underbody well in excess of everyone else. Button seemed rather puzzled by that.
Red Bull are doing this with an engine that is widely reported to lack top end power and with a much smaller KERS unit than anyone else, so they're on pole and faster carrying handicaps where Monza is concerned. It really shouldn't be possible what they've done but they've put their rivals right back to square one. You really wouldn't think Red Bull were the team out in front in the championship.
Not to worry ray he used all his softs by the end of q2. If I was MS and NR I would be very scared of him behind them going into the chicane.Ray wrote:Rather than burn up all the softs in Q3 trying to made grid spots he probably wasn't going to keep, make him hang back and save them so if he makes any mistakes he'll have an advantage climbing back through the field.
Yep, q3 twice in his first too races in a long time... WAYYY over his head clearly.Mr Alcatraz wrote:The freakin' guy can't even find the pit lane speed button.
This guy is in way over his head. Nick is probably chuckling a little right about now.
It appears the only way he got there was by making Bonsai runs into the pits to grab all his option tires, completely disregarding the pit speed limits by a lot. I am no fan of Nick. I've followed his career and thought in his prime he was about on the same level as Button. But Nick had some bad breaks and it ends up that there was always a young gun that was a better risk. (Maybe if he was a Brit some other doors might have opened, but at least he could hang with Petrov). The jury is still out on Senna. I have a proposition for you bob. I will bet you that Senna finishes 13th or worse. The winner gets to pick a signature the loser has to use for the Fortnight (until the next race). Nothing crude or demeaning just something that acknowledges that the horse you backed lost.beelsebob wrote:Yep, q3 twice in his first too races in a long time... WAYYY over his head clearly.Mr Alcatraz wrote:The freakin' guy can't even find the pit lane speed button.
This guy is in way over his head. Nick is probably chuckling a little right about now.
no thanks - I didn't make any assertion about where I thought he'd finish. Only that someone who is driving an unfamiliar car in only his second race at the competitive end is bound to make mistakes... All things considered, he seems to be fairly quick, though not the greatest driver since his uncle... Give him another couple of races to settle and see where he is. If he's still booming up pit lane limits I'll be agreeing with you.Mr Alcatraz wrote: It appears the only way he got there was by making Bonsai runs into the pits to grab all his option tires, completely disregarding the pit speed limits by a lot. I am no fan of Nick. I've followed his career and thought in his prime he was about on the same level as Button. But Nick had some bad breaks and it ends up that there was always a young gun that was a better risk. (Maybe if he was a Brit some other doors might have opened, but at least he could hang with Petrov). The jury is still out on Senna. I have a proposition for you bob. I will bet you that Senna finishes 13th or worse. The winner gets to pick a signature the loser has to use for the Fortnight (until the next race). Nothing crude or demeaning just something that acknowledges that the horse you backed lost.
What sayeth thee?
Fair enough,beelzebob wrote:no thanks - I didn't make any assertion about where I thought he'd finish. Only that someone who is driving an unfamiliar car in only his second race at the competitive end is bound to make mistakes... All things considered, he seems to be fairly quick, though not the greatest driver since his uncle... Give him another couple of races to settle and see where he is. If he's still booming up pit lane limits I'll be agreeing with you.
Boulier is at least hoping for the two mercs sandwiched inbetween him and Petrov.marcush wrote:Senna needed a tow from Petrov to find the braking points in Q ...which is the one difficult thing in Monza ...So follow petrov and be 4 tenth of a lap slower ....without this help he was considerably slower than vitaly...I fear the first chicane...Senna has aired after Spa that now his seat is safe for the rest of the season he is prepared to take a few more risks....maybe swipe of the first 8cars in one go?
