2014 German Grand Prix - Hockenheim

[strad]

Massa clearly turned right.. into Kevin

[djos]

Massa clearly turned right.. into Kevin

because turning right is what you do in a right hand corner!

#Fail

[strad]

I will side with Charlie Whiting

Felipe needs to know that when you start there is another driver inside. He must leave space.

[langwadt]

I will side with Charlie Whiting

Felipe needs to know that when you start there is another driver inside. He must leave space.

yes, expecting the race line to be clear when you start on the outside it at best optimistic

[strad]

Martin Brundle lays the blame on Massa as well. I think I'm in good company.

[beelsebob]

Honestly, I have no idea how you could blame anyone but Massa. He left no room at all for Magnussun.

[djos]

Honestly, I have no idea how you could blame anyone but Massa. He left no room at all for Magnussun.

It's 50/50:

KMag should have used a bit more caution knowing full well those at the front of the pack wouldn't have expected him to be up as far as he was.

On on the other side of the Coin, Massa should left more room through the corner apex just in case someone came barging through like KMag did.

[Vettel Maggot]

100% Massa's fault. Anyone who has raced anything in real life will know you don't just steam in from the outside on the first corner and lunge for the inside line, chances are someone's going to be there. Run it a little wider than normal and carry on.

[langwadt]

Honestly, I have no idea how you could blame anyone but Massa. He left no room at all for Magnussun.

It's 50/50:

KMag should have used a bit more caution knowing full well those at the front of the pack wouldn't have expected him to be up as far as he was.

On on the other side of the Coin, Massa should left more room through the corner apex just in case someone came barging through like KMag did.

front of the pack? Massa and Magnussen started 4th and 3rd, side by side all the way to the corner

http://youtu.be/YG2zO99UR9A?t=15s

[Sevach]

I don't think Felipe is to blame (neither is Magnussen, it's just a difficult spot), but he's certainly a huge douche with his constant pointing of fingers.

[tf1250]

In an earlier clip, I thought I saw Massa look mirror right, mirror right, mirror right, then turn in. These guys have extraordinary peripheral vision, so I'm amazed that Massa would presume Magnussen wasn't there.

[Shakeman]

If Massa is in the right then it's the end of racing. Anyone remember Weber and Alonso going toe to toe through Eau Rouge leaving each other just enough space? If either one had been a plonker like Massa it would've been a massive prang.

Massa was penalised for doing the exact same thing to Hamilton a couple of years ago and has learnt nothing and he had the gall to denigrate all GP2 drivers too with his remarks.

He's a plonker because it could've easily been a 2-3 for Williams yet he threw it away in the first corner against a mid field car that was absolutely no threat.

[basti313]

If Massa is in the right then it's the end of racing. Anyone remember Weber and Alonso going toe to toe through Eau Rouge leaving each other just enough space? If either one had been a plonker like Massa it would've been a massive prang.

There are drivers like Alonso, Rosberg, Button, Hulkenberg, Vettel or Webber and there are drivers like Grosjean, Maldonado, Hamilton, Perez and Massa. You just can not compare them.

[vin1658]

@basti323

Don't let your hatred for hamilton consume your sense of judgement.

[iotar__]

If Massa is in the right then it's the end of racing. Anyone remember Weber and Alonso going toe to toe through Eau Rouge leaving each other just enough space? If either one had been a plonker like Massa it would've been a massive prang. Massa was penalised for doing the exact same thing to Hamilton a couple of years ago and has learnt nothing and he had the gall to denigrate all GP2 drivers too with his remarks. He's a plonker because it could've easily been a 2-3 for Williams yet he threw it away in the first corner against a mid field car that was absolutely no threat.

What same thing to Hamilton, what plonker and most importantly what Eau Rouge Alonso-Webber? How is any of that relevant to this incident and Magnussen being clumsy for a tenth time this season and unaware of his surroundings? You want a comparison: Guttierez-Maldonado Bahrain. Maldonado had no where to go (after he put himself in this position of course like KM) and plonker Guttierez cut in front of him, instead of leaving a lot of space. That was an extreme version.

I agree about his comment being stupid on two levels: 1. Age doesn't stop you from bad, dirty driving as examples of Hamilton (three times in Germany), Alonso or himself (wasn't he in a similar incident with Alonso late last season?) showed consistently. 2. Raikkonen is not young straight out of GP2 and is driving much worse than that, funny how politician Massa ignored it. Jo Ramirez: "He could have seriously hurt himself," "or worse, he could have hurt Massa as well. And yet he gets away without any punishment." "If it would have been Maldonado or Grosjean, they would have sat out Germany, for sure,"