JEV is a has been, in the 100% spec series FormulaE his best result was two 3rd's in two seasons.flickerf1 wrote:A question that has been nagging at me for a while is... Why did Red Bull pick Daniil over Jean-Eric? I mean, Jev finished 13th in the championship compared to Daniil's 15th. I don't understand the logic behind it. To me it seems foolish to choose a hotshot rookie compared to someone who has had 3 years of F1 experience. I would appreciate if someone could give me some insight into Red Bull's decision.
IMHO, neither are very good, but of the two, JEV showed more talent in my eyes.flickerf1 wrote:A question that has been nagging at me for a while is... Why did Red Bull pick Daniil over Jean-Eric? I mean, Jev finished 13th in the championship compared to Daniil's 15th. I don't understand the logic behind it. To me it seems foolish to choose a hotshot rookie compared to someone who has had 3 years of F1 experience. I would appreciate if someone could give me some insight into Red Bull's decision.
JEV raced well but was never able to qualify the car high up enough to produce any really good results. He rarely put the car in the top ten and as a result was able to chose his race tires under the rules at the time, this also flattered his results.Pierce89 wrote: IMHO, neither are very good, but of the two, JEV showed more talent in my eyes.
Ricciardo would be murdering either one in speed terms.
Jev also got more points than Ricciardo at least one season, yet Red Bull saw more talent in Daniel.flickerf1 wrote:A question that has been nagging at me for a while is... Why did Red Bull pick Daniil over Jean-Eric? I mean, Jev finished 13th in the championship compared to Daniil's 15th. I don't understand the logic behind it. To me it seems foolish to choose a hotshot rookie compared to someone who has had 3 years of F1 experience. I would appreciate if someone could give me some insight into Red Bull's decision.
JEV got lucky in his first season paired with RIC, RIC would have been well in front on points if it weren't for his car breaking down on the last lap at Monza while in 5th place . Ignoring the points, the stats dont favour JEV at all egSevach wrote: Jev also got more points than Ricciardo at least one season, yet Red Bull saw more talent in Daniel.
I think when they brought Ricciardo to the big team, they had made up their minds that JEV wasn't "Red Bull material" and he was on his way to be cut, with the Vettel exit forcing their hand, but Ricciardo proving fit to be team leader they decided to take flyer on Kvyat a rookie rather than bringing a name from the outside.
Plus the big names looked set, Hamilton, Rosberg and Alonso weren't coming... maybe Button, but why sign an old Button to a reconstructing team?
I call BS.djos wrote:He rarely put the car in the top ten and as a result was able to chose his race tires under the rules at the time, this also flattered his results.
Sorry but the stats don't lie:SectorOne wrote:I call BS.djos wrote:He rarely put the car in the top ten and as a result was able to chose his race tires under the rules at the time, this also flattered his results.
The fact is that over 2 years of racing there was 1 point separating Vergne and Ricciardo.
Vergne then beat Kvyat after that and still got the boot.
During that time Ricciardo whipped Vettel and got Kvyat as teammate for 2015 were Kvyat beat him.
I think it might even become a political game with Putin playing center stage. Kvyat to lose his seat next race? Sure, then there won't be a Russian GP in the future. I could see Bernie massaging Red Bull in keeping Kvyat until the end of the season or maybe more. I won't be surprised.superdowg316 wrote:If Red Bull do the seat swap as mentioned it would be without a doubt the dumbest thing to happen this year. I get it, Kvyat ruined the race for the team last time out, but he also scored their only podium this year the race before that. If ruining a teams race can get you pushed down/out, why wasn't Vettel fired after hitting Webber in Fuji 2007? Why weren't either Vettel or Webber put in a Toro Rosso from the next race onwards after Turkey 2010? This seems to me that they're using his last race as an excuse to simply put Verstappen in the car so that they keep him, and Daniil was the guy who screwed up first. Had Ricciardo made the same mistake, I don't think Red Bull would have made the decision, but it's no doubt a political one given Verstappen's popularity at the moment.
What kind of Tinfoil do you use for your hat? Thats such an outrageous thing to think. If that was the case, there would have been lots of races over the years get cancelled because of their respective drivers getting the boot. How come Monza is still on the grid? No Italians racing..WaikeCU wrote:I think it might even become a political game with Putin playing center stage. Kvyat to lose his seat next race? Sure, then there won't be a Russian GP in the future. I could see Bernie massaging Red Bull in keeping Kvyat until the end of the season or maybe more. I won't be surprised.superdowg316 wrote:If Red Bull do the seat swap as mentioned it would be without a doubt the dumbest thing to happen this year. I get it, Kvyat ruined the race for the team last time out, but he also scored their only podium this year the race before that. If ruining a teams race can get you pushed down/out, why wasn't Vettel fired after hitting Webber in Fuji 2007? Why weren't either Vettel or Webber put in a Toro Rosso from the next race onwards after Turkey 2010? This seems to me that they're using his last race as an excuse to simply put Verstappen in the car so that they keep him, and Daniil was the guy who screwed up first. Had Ricciardo made the same mistake, I don't think Red Bull would have made the decision, but it's no doubt a political one given Verstappen's popularity at the moment.